Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Oct 25, 2013 10:52 pm I have had screed laid on the floor in my bathroom including the shower. My tiler has commented that there was no fall. We poured a bucket of water on the floor and it either pooled or ran towards the bathroom door. He suggested I dig it up and get it done properly. I have been charged $1100 for the work. It took two young lads a day to lay it. Is this excessive? The floor measures approx 14 square metres. If this is poor workmanship, what are my rights and has the work breached Australian Standards? Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 3Oct 27, 2013 10:57 pm Employed a local Adelaide company who advertise as a bathroom company and builder....to do my bathroom Reno. They did the screed and some plumbing work and my 14 yr old daughter could have done better soldering. I became concerned about continuing with them so thought I'd get a quote for the remaining work. The tiler that came pointed out a problem with the screed but I wanted to check that he was right before I speak to the original builder. I wondered whether the screed should be level and whether the tiles are laid to provide the necessary fall. Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 4Oct 28, 2013 10:47 am Dysy68 I wondered whether the screed should be level and whether the tiles are laid to provide the necessary fall. No, the screed should have fall on it. The glue used on most tiles isn't thick enough to create a proper fall. Sounds like they have done a really bad job! I would have them rip it up! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 6Oct 28, 2013 9:22 pm Spoke to the guy on the phone today. Surprise surprise he said they would create the fall with the tiles and glue and that a level screed wasn't an issue. Thanks for your advice, I now know he is telling me ******. Not sure whether to pay him ($1100) just to get rid of him.....and pay someone else to do it properly.....dispute payment and take legal action (which will take ages and delay the job)...or get him to redo it properly which would be awkward. Anyone know what my rights are? Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 7Oct 28, 2013 9:28 pm You owe him money, you aren't happy with the job. Show him the relevant building standards and request that he fixes it within 7 days or you will get someone else to do it properly. Get it done properly by a waterproofing company and get them to write a report that they fixed a job that wasn't done properly. If you paid them, then you're in trouble Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 8Oct 29, 2013 6:27 am JB1 You owe him money, you aren't happy with the job. Show him the relevant building standards and request that he fixes it within 7 days or you will get someone else to do it properly. Get it done properly by a waterproofing company and get them to write a report that they fixed a job that wasn't done properly. If you paid them, then you're in trouble Agreed! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Problems with floor screed in shower 9Oct 29, 2013 8:57 pm From this post here...
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=57327 Cherubs post near the bottom... There is no hard and fast rule. No standard fall other than water must not pond. This from BCA Explanatory information: 1. The ratio of fall achieved in a floor may vary depending on the following: (a) The finished height requirements at doorways. (b) The height of fixtures or fittings. (c) The dimensions of the tiles used (adequate falls become more difficult to achieve as the size of the tiles used increases). (d) The area of the floor to be drained. (e) The requirements of people with disabilities. 2. The recommended ratio of fall within showers is between 1:60 and 1:80. 3. The recommended ratio of fall in other areas is between 1:80 and 1:100. 4. In some cases the fall in the floor finishes in the same area may vary. 5. Where falls steeper than 1:100 are not achievable, the effectiveness of the floor drainage should be confirmed to ensure that water does not remain on the finished floor in a manner that can adversely affect the health or amenity of the building occupants or deteriorate building elements. From what I have seen of the BCA in the past all the above is as it states but nowhere does it state that the screed should have fall only that the floor should have fall to the waste. I would hazzard a guess and suggest that they mean the finished floor. Whether you achieve that through having a screed with fall or through glue could be open to argument here even though common sense and usual building practice is to lay the screed with fall to the waste then glue the tiles to it. Personally my tiler would wet fix the tiles in place with cement over the screed the same day and still achieve decent fall and an excellent tiling job. Stewie Before you rip it up, if you can in the grout lines, drill some holes and pour/inject techgrip by sika. I have used it to bond mdf to timber, but in the process it dripped… 1 2990 Hi all, We're curring working on our outdoor and have some questions in relation to screed. I've tried to find information online, without success. Apologies for the… 0 2866 Currently renovating, and our main lounge is 5m x 10m, with a cathedral roof peaking at 6.5m high. Currently have tiles on concrete slab. Room is very hard to heat. I am… 0 3530 |