Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Sep 13, 2012 12:33 pm Hi I have a small bathroom that is going to cause me headaches. At the framing stage and there is an area of 1500x700 for the bath tub. However there is also a door next to one end of the 700mm space, so I can't use up all 1500x700 as I have to leave say 50mm for the door architrave! Damn you draftsman! In the end, I've decided on going for a smaller freestanding bath, as it will safely fit. I can choose between a 1400mm rectangular freestanding bath tub or 1350mm oval freestanding bath. Unfortunately, there is no oval 1400 or 1450mm version. They are both 700mm wide This will give me room for the the door architrave. And the oval one does look much better, however should I go for smaller oval or slightly larger rectangular? The look similar to these, but not as big. They are both deeper than the normal insert bath tubs at 570mm high, so the internal depth should be around 500mm The sides are 25mm thick and seem to be made out of polymarble rather than the fibreglass, so it's much sharper looking. It's for the kids, rather than adults, however you always gotta think that the place may be sold one day. So, 1350mm oval or 1400mm rectangular? Decisions decisions. Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 2Sep 13, 2012 1:21 pm We put a 1650mm oval freestanding bath into our bathroom and its only just big enough for an adult. 1350-1400 will be fine for kids but not very good for adults. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 4Sep 13, 2012 2:13 pm I prefer the rectangle as I think with such limited space you really need to go as big as possible. I agree it's important for re-sale however small it is, plus most people I know only use (or should I say have the time to use) the bath for the children. Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 5Sep 13, 2012 3:32 pm mimi23 I prefer the rectangle as I think with such limited space you really need to go as big as possible. I agree it's important for re-sale however small it is, plus most people I know only use (or should I say have the time to use) the bath for the children. Is it really?? That used to be the case but there are so many units and houses being built without baths. I have a feeling it doesnt really make any difference for re-sale these days. I personally wouldnt put a bath into a small room. I would prefer to take the bath out and make the room feel bigger with a walk in shower. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 6Sep 13, 2012 5:43 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens mimi23 I prefer the rectangle as I think with such limited space you really need to go as big as possible. I agree it's important for re-sale however small it is, plus most people I know only use (or should I say have the time to use) the bath for the children. Is it really?? That used to be the case but there are so many units and houses being built without baths. I have a feeling it doesnt really make any difference for re-sale these days. I personally wouldnt put a bath into a small room. I would prefer to take the bath out and make the room feel bigger with a walk in shower. I think so. I think parents with small children won't consider a house without a bath... I've been told this by a few people ranging from carpenters, draftsman to real estate agents... and now as a parent with an infant, I would agree with them. The shower in the same bathroom is bigger than the bath at 1500x900 (showerbases are expensive for this size). This bathroom is for upstairs and there's no way I'm installing a walk in shower upstairs, that's just asking for trouble down the track with water leakage. I'm not against walk in showers as I am however having a walk in shower downstairs on concrete slab. I see most units and apartments having shower over baths if they don't have a separate bath... Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 7Sep 13, 2012 7:05 pm I would go for oval. Classic egg shape, won't date, no gunky corners for dirt , easier to clean, looks nice, no sharp corners as said child slips on the floor and cracks head on said corner of rectangle bath etc I think, if you can fit a sep bath and shower in, you will never lose or put any potential buyers off. 1500x900 shower tray is a good size. ( and no, they aren't cheap) So you have covered all bases. I'm sold! Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 8Sep 13, 2012 7:17 pm A rounded freestanding bath should give you more length to play with with regard to the door. That is, you may be able to go the full 1500 mm. Does this make sense? Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 9Sep 13, 2012 8:50 pm The issue with going the full 1500mm is that you have to physically fit it in after the vanity is installed and the tiles have been laid. The vanity is next to the bath and with he shower mixer sticking out from the wall there is a danger of not being able to fit it as you will have mm's not cm's of clearance. 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 11Sep 13, 2012 9:08 pm kiwi I would go for oval. Classic egg shape, won't date, no gunky corners for dirt , easier to clean, looks nice, no sharp corners as said child slips on the floor and cracks head on said corner of rectangle bath etc I think, if you can fit a sep bath and shower in, you will never lose or put any potential buyers off. 1500x900 shower tray is a good size. ( and no, they aren't cheap) So you have covered all bases. I'm sold! Well if you're sold, so am I! Good point about round being easy to clean. Oval it is! I purchased this showerbase http://www.marbletrend.com.au/products/Showers/12/128 Only 40mm thick, once you install the cement sheeting, grout and porcelain tiles, it should only stick out 20mm from the ground so will pretty sleek Comes will a full length stainless steel grate too! Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 13Sep 13, 2012 9:17 pm Is that grate with a ! For a reason!!!??? Watch the hair....... This looks like our ensuite, but ours is 2000 wide. We have a UNO bath in there and a 1 x 1 shower. We have a wall hung vanity, that helps with space too..as the floor looks less cluttered and therefore the room ' appears' bigger. I think a freestanding bath ( although hard to clean at the back and sides, but just get on your knees man) will be fine. If it will fit. Better than no bath. Go for it. Easier to clean around than the square when space is tight. IMO Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 14Sep 13, 2012 9:29 pm I think the door architrave and an oval bath 1500 long will mean that, due to the curvature, the architrave will have space. So I don't see why a 1500 long oval bath could not be placed. However, the more I think about it, the more I think a freestanding bath will not work well there. To me a freestanding bath must have an opening all around. Enough to walk around is great. To me, a built in bath would be best for the space. At 1500 mm the bath would only be 300 mm shorter than a standard bath and I think it would OK. How would you clean all around your freestanding bath? Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 16Sep 14, 2012 12:15 am The frame are 1540 x 720, just take away say 20mm each side for plaster and tiles Is how I got 1500x700 Even if I check in the drop in bath which is 700mm wide, the frame will protrude into the door/door architrave area. A 1500mm bath is going to be a tight squeeze in a 1500-1505mm area. Add the mixer tap and spout outlet and it's going to be a very tight squeeze! Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 17Sep 14, 2012 6:09 am The mixer and taps can go on the wall ( the bath will be close enough to 3 walls to have the spout go straight into the bath and not splash the floor) so that saves space. Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 18Sep 14, 2012 9:47 am The mixer will be on the long side of the bath, 150mm higher than the bath. I may not order the bath until the tiles are on to see if we can squeeze (and I mean squeeze) an oval 1500mm bath in. As mentioned, cleaning will be a pain, but as I can't physically install a frame for the drop in bath, what choice do I have. The bath floor will be fully waterproofed (well I hope so). Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 19Sep 14, 2012 9:52 am I would have the mixer where the door architrave is, hate leaning over a bath to turn on taps etc. You slip, it's unsafe, if a kid runs his bath, you have to do it cos they can't reach etc Have the spout on the long wall...just not the mixer. Re: 1350mm freestanding bath too small? 20Sep 14, 2012 2:44 pm I have recently installed a 1300mm long freestanding oval bath and I LOVE it. My bathroom is tiny (2m x 2.3m), so the shorter length freestanding works really well, and the oval shape gives the illusion of more floor space in my opinion. In terms of comfort, I prefer to it to the 1700mm bath that was there previously - given that the shorter bath is also a lot deeper (the water line comes up to my shoulders when I sit in it), I can sit up and be fully immersed. To be honest, this is the most comfortable bath I have ever had. I find in bigger baths, to really lie back and relax you run the risk of slipping down and dunking yourself - the smaller bath means my feet hit the other end to prevent this - perfect! In summary - shorter freestanding baths in small rooms are awesome Bathroom renovation will likely include a back-to-corner bath and we’re considering a freestanding tap with hand-held shower such as the picture included. My hesitation… 0 24696 Not sure if that works? I was told the issue is the headspace clearance requirement on step 4. 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