Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Jan 20, 2013 12:52 pm Hey. We found some downlights we really like that we were planning on putting on alfresco and in bathroom (in front of mirror). We are about to purchase them but we are worried if they will rust and/or be unsafe.. they are brushed chrome and has a glass cover, but not specifically made for outdoors/bathroom as far as I know. We asked staff in store, and they thought it would be fine, but they didn't seem to really know. The light in question is the eos litek 140. What do you think? EDIT: wtf, googling this light and found a store that says this about the larger model of the same light: "This fitiing has a NON IC rating. It cannot be used in residential premises. Suitable for commercial locations only." What is that supposed to mean, can't we use this light? There was no warning sign on the ones we saw in store. We even bought one to have a closer look at it before we buy the rest, and looking at it now it does not have that sticker or mentions anything about it. We also talked to staff when we bought it about where we were planning on using it, and they didn't say anything. Link here EDIT: looking through the installation sheet with the light we bought, it says that it needs a 50mm clearance from combustible materials (such as insulation). Is that why it is not rated IC (which I just googled and it means "In Contact") and will that be a problem? I thought it was common to simply leave a little room around downlights for safety reasons. Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 2Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm i am also getting downlights for alfresco and vanity also main bathroom these are the ones we bought http://www.atomlighting.com.au/product- ... AT9012.php we asked our lighting store whether these were suitable for the bathroom etc and they said no worries at all as they are full enclosed, these atom downlights are led and did cost us $49 each . we are building and the insulation man has asked us to make sure the electrician marks were downlights go as he has have the insulation away from them Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 3Jan 21, 2013 8:48 pm The term 'IC' means insulation contact. In layman's terms, most downlights will have an insulation barrier above the light fitting in the roof space. It's more or less a plastic cylinder that keeps the insulation off the light fitting. By law, all downlights must have this barrier and cannot be installed without one, otherwise you run the risk of the insulation catching fire. Every registered electrician will know this barrier will need to be installed. Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 4Feb 23, 2013 10:37 pm So anyway, still looking for lights. After closer inspection of some outdoor lights (and finding lost of rust etc) I've decided that I rather not risk the brushed chrome. What is a better material? We found some lights we liked that were brushed aluminium. The store said that they should hold up better. Is brushed aluminium much better or is there a better version still? I saw some stainless steel ones, but they were all halogen.. EDIT: talked to someone who said we should really get IP rated ones, and that even if they have a cover, they might not be great with the moisture etc. I'm having HUGE difficulties finding a downlight like this (that is not halogen). Any recommendations are much appreciated. Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 5Apr 20, 2013 7:16 pm If it's not too late............. Whatever you get, you want (for wet areas / alfresco etc) 316 Stainless Steel. 304 Stainless Steel is "OK", but pay the extra, get 316 SS , and be done with it P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 6Jun 06, 2013 10:52 am bkm2009 ...... most downlights will have an insulation barrier above the light fitting in the roof space. It's more or less a plastic cylinder that keeps the insulation off the light fitting. By law, all downlights must have this barrier and cannot be installed without one, otherwise you run the risk of the insulation catching fire....... I've done a lot of research on this and DO NOT think that the law requires covers. To be sure, I totally agree that every downlight really should have a cover, I just don't think it's an actual law. MY interpretation of the insulation clearance requirements are that "clearance" may be achieved in a few ways.... 1 ) A fitting approved by the manufacturer for "Zero clearance" 2 ) Using a suitable fire-reststant cover 3 ) Having "appropriate" clearance from combustible materials, either as supplied by the manufacturer, or, failing that, the "default" clearance as specified by the BCA (200mm for halogen, 50mm for all others). See my post here (and subsequent posts) for my take on covers viewtopic.php?p=1028623#p1028623 HTH P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 7Jun 06, 2013 7:50 pm We bought our lights a while ago, we got 13w atom led lights. http://www.lightingillusions.com.au/sho ... -downlight They are aluminium and we did NOT get the anodised one. A bit annoyed, we bought it in store and talked about how worried we were about rust etc, and he didn't even tell us that for $4 more we could have gotten one that was treated. Anyway, they are already bought and installed now, so fingers crossed they look like new for many years to come. Re: Downlight for bathroom/outdoor? Will brushed chrome last 8Jun 06, 2013 8:06 pm I've recently started to spray and wipe off a "spray grease" on external metallic fittings. It's too early to see if it'll work medium - long term, but I figure it can't hurt I hold the item with an old rag or tea towel or similar and then give it a spray and then wipe the item "clean and dry" and then try and install / position it without touching it. As it's a grease you can't wipe it ALL off, my theory is the the very thin layer of grease left will give it some protection !! According to their propaganda....."It sprays on evenly as a liquid, and sets dry for a thick coating. It will not splatter, melt, run, wash off or freeze." This is what I use, get it from any car-type store (Super Cheap Auto etc...) http://www.3inone.com.au/3inone/white_l ... grease.php Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Which chrome tapwares is a good affordable brand with a good warranty in Myhomeware shop Sydney. I visited the shop and they… 0 2176 Thanks for letting us know. The programmer will have a look at this later today. 2 6667 About a year ago, I embarked on a DIY project to construct an outdoor Pergola, which measures approximately 5.2 meters by 4.0… 0 29573 |