Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry Re: Affixing accessories 2Aug 20, 2012 10:25 am 6mm masonry drill and a S/Steel or brass screw into a green plastic rawlplug. That is unless you know where the studs are... Whenever I did a bathroom reno we used to put nogs in for all the accessory fixing. Stewie Re: Affixing accessories 3Aug 20, 2012 10:27 am Stewie D 6mm masonry drill and a S/Steel or brass screw into a green plastic rawlplug. That is unless you know where the studs are... Whenever I did a bathroom reno we used to put nogs in for all the accessory fixing. Stewie thanks for that. I was thinking about the plastic plug but wasnt sure if just the thickness of the tile would be enough to hold it. And a toggle screw will just need too large a hole. Whats your opinion on using a masonry drill bit versus a dedicated spade type tile drill bit? Re: Affixing accessories 4Aug 20, 2012 11:56 am Quote: I was thinking about the plastic plug but wasnt sure if just the thickness of the tile would be enough t It's only a TR and brush holder so not that much weight or load. Quote: Whats your opinion on using a masonry drill bit versus a dedicated spade type tile drill bit? We used to only use a ( sharp) standard masonry bit in a small impact drill and not too much force - take it slowly. It depends a lot on your tiles - how strong or how brittle they are too. Stewie Re: Affixing accessories 5Aug 20, 2012 3:26 pm amgsl55 [ Whats your opinion on using a masonry drill bit versus a dedicated spade type tile drill bit? It really depends on the tile. For most tiles a standard masonry drill bit is perfect. I turn the hammer function of the drill off. I can crack the tiles. Some tiles are very brittle and need diamond tipped drill bits. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Affixing accessories 6Aug 20, 2012 3:56 pm I would have concerns with the green plug though! You may find it cracks the tile. I believe the way most masonry fittings work is they expand inside the masonry, as the green plug does when you put a screw into it, and that expansion can crack tiles I have always been told! But I don't know of any other solutions if it is a hollow wall, liquid nails comes to mind, but sounds like a ******* idea! 2 Re: Affixing accessories 7Aug 21, 2012 7:35 am stormjr I would have concerns with the green plug though! You may find it cracks the tile. I believe the way most masonry fittings work is they expand inside the masonry, as the green plug does when you put a screw into it, and that expansion can crack tiles I have always been told! But I don't know of any other solutions if it is a hollow wall, liquid nails comes to mind, but sounds like a ******* idea! 2 Wrong! Green plugs are used in the trade every day of the week! I just used green plugs to hold all my bathroom accessories to the walls in 3 bathrooms without issue! Liquid nails? Really? Green plugs are what tradesmen use why reinvent the wheel. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Affixing accessories 8Aug 21, 2012 10:18 am Quote: I believe the way most masonry fittings work is they expand inside the masonry, as the green plug does when you put a screw into it, and that expansion can crack tiles I have always been told! As myself and CEK says above , green plugs are fine. If it's a masonry wall, tap the plug into the hole deeper than the tile with a nail punch or similar and let the bricks hold the plug not the tile. One thing I almost always do is throw away the screws that come with the fittings ( unless they have to be a special sort or are seen ) and use 40mm plasterboard screws instead - the thread goes all the way up to the screw head for better holding power and won't split the tile. Timber framed wall and villaboard is a different kettle of fish, that's why we used to cut 100 x 50mm nogs to suit and nail them on their side for fixing. Otherwise you have to use green plugs... Never used a diamond tipped or other type of drill either , just your bog standard TC tipped drill bit to drill the holes. What I have used also on some really hard vitreous tiles is a 3mm TC masonry bit first to drill a pilot hole then the 6mm one - both have to be sharp though. I've only ever cracked a couple of tiles in over 35 years of doing renos too. Stewie |