Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Apr 02, 2012 11:20 pm 1. We're in the phases of deciding on plan and builders and wanted hobless because we liked the look and have family member in wheelchair. We wanted a hobless shower where there is simply a tiled wall - no shower screen and frame. Apprently, we're told that there is some new standard by one builder (SPH) where they can't do this. Can someone verify this for me - we nearly built in 2011 and this wasn't the case back then. 2. We wanted full height tiling in ensuite but are being charged $2500 for the luxury. The builder won't let us do our own tiling in ensuite. Could someone suggest what they would do - spend the $2500+ or work out a way where I could bring my own tiler and do the job after - but how without getting different tiles etc Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 2Apr 03, 2012 1:06 am Good question I would also like to know whether it is possible to get the single row of tiles by the builder and then have a tiler in to do the rest post handover. Anyone ever done this or have thoughts on it.... BTW, I am having shower recesses without a door but the recess is double length so the water should not go outside. The open end would be a towel off area. Cheers Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 3Apr 03, 2012 7:08 pm We had a double length hobless shower built in our ensuite but that was in 2009. I do wish we'd had the full length drain/grill at one end as I think this looks and works even better. Ours is fully tiled with no glass but we don't have full height walls on 2 sides. On these 2 sides the wall only goes to 2000mm. We were worried that it might be too dark in the tiled shower area otherwise. We have an opening that is wheelchair width as the shower entry. ATM DH has hung a shower curtain there but water rarely splashed that far. One thing we should have written into our contract was to have the top of the not full height walls also tiled. Ours aren't. I think they should have been. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 4May 18, 2012 9:33 am Is anyone able to answer the question about whether you can bring someone in after handover to finish tiling the walls to ceiling height? We are also looking at doing this but not sure if it will look right where one lot of tiling ends and the other begins? thanks Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 5May 18, 2012 11:12 pm We have a hobless shower, with full height tiles and no door. We elected to have one side half tiled wall and half frameless glass, so it would not look so closed in, and give the illusion of a wider opening. As we have heated floor, no problems with wet floors. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 6May 19, 2012 8:17 am auds Is anyone able to answer the question about whether you can bring someone in after handover to finish tiling the walls to ceiling height? We are also looking at doing this but not sure if it will look right where one lot of tiling ends and the other begins? thanks Shouldn't be too much of an issue so long as you use the exact same tiles and of course the initial layout is done with full height in mind. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 7May 19, 2012 9:41 am So long as the wall is ready to tile, ie the tiler doesn't want to add AC sheet or something that will make the tiles stand off the wall more you defiantly can tile later. Having said that most if not all tiles have slight color variations from batch to batch! So unless you can find identical tiles and grout chances are there will be a slight difference, but that could be masked with a row of border tiles so they are not next to each other! There must be a way you can have an open shower, like you said for people in a wheel chair! I think the problem is then you have to water proof all the floor and have a floor waste with the floor sloping towards it, maybe something the builder does not want to do 2 Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 8May 31, 2012 8:17 am PHL We have a hobless shower, with full height tiles and no door. We elected to have one side half tiled wall and half frameless glass, so it would not look so closed in, and give the illusion of a wider opening. This is exactly what we want to do. Could you post a photo please? Cheers Wanderer Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 9Jun 02, 2012 1:03 am WE were supposed to have no hob in our walk in shower but eventually decided to put a hob in. Actually two of our bathrooms have this. It does not look bad at all and i feel comfortable knowing there is no danger of flooding. On our hob we have a stainless steel trim and that looks awesome. We also have floor to ceiling tiles in all bathrooms. Love it! Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 10Jun 02, 2012 11:00 pm Wanderer PHL We have a hobless shower, with full height tiles and no door. We elected to have one side half tiled wall and half frameless glass, so it would not look so closed in, and give the illusion of a wider opening. This is exactly what we want to do. Could you post a photo please? Cheers Wanderer Sure. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/DSC01046.jpg You can just see the shower head. The shower area is behind the wall to the left of the vanity and that piece of frameless glass. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 11Jun 03, 2012 6:44 pm That is sexy! Did you need to have a reflux valve installed? We wanted to go hobless, but our builder wanted to charge $1800 I dont see why they wouldnt do it for you mazstar1980, only restriction may be the installation of a reflux valve. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 12Jun 03, 2012 10:55 pm alt0160 That is sexy! Did you need to have a reflux valve installed? We wanted to go hobless, but our builder wanted to charge $1800 Don't see why we need a reflux valve, as we are on a raised concrete slab, and there was sufficient space for the usual traps. Thus far, the hobless design, albeit with a Stormtech channel, hasn't been a problem. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 13Jun 04, 2012 4:22 pm PHL alt0160 That is sexy! Did you need to have a reflux valve installed? We wanted to go hobless, but our builder wanted to charge $1800 Don't see why we need a reflux valve, as we are on a raised concrete slab, and there was sufficient space for the usual traps. Thus far, the hobless design, albeit with a Stormtech channel, hasn't been a problem. I couldn't see why we needed it either, but they kept on about water backing up and flooding the bathroom Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 14Jun 08, 2012 11:35 am This is our ensuite with walk in shower. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ We had no need for any reflux valves however our plans were approved almost 2 years ago so maybe things have changed recently, it is also on the second storey. We have a shower grate at the back of the shower and the whole bathroom floor grades back to the shower so there was no need for any extra floor waste. The shower floor itself has more grade than the ensuite floor but as we owner built I worked with the plumber and tiler to get the set up I wanted. The problem people will have with having floor to ceiling tiles done after handover will be the cornice. When you have floor to ceiling tiles, the cornice goes in after the tiling is finished. If you run the tiling up to ceiling height after the the ceilings are finished then you loose the bottom edge of your cornice. This may not worry some people but if you want the full effect then you really need to have it all done in the correct order. Having it done properly means a return trip for the ceiling fixers after the tilers have finished which is another reason builders charge you more. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 16Jun 09, 2012 12:29 pm We wanted full height tiling and were quoted about $5000 to extend it to the roof in ensuite and main bathroom. It included the extra tiles (which is quite a large square meterage when you calculate it) and stronger plasterboard I think. We ended up restricting the full height tiling only to those walls where there had to be tilling. We have square set cornices too, though, so maybe we will do the other walls later. Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 17Jun 12, 2012 7:02 am You average home builder is a huge rip off when it comes to extras!! My wife and I have just finished building a home with Wincrest homes and they have been fantastic. We too also wanted full height tiles and it was going to cost a total of $25,000 to tile 3 bathrooms and 60sqm of 600x600 tiles in our living room. I ended up getting handover at lock up and getting my tiler in to do the work. I purchased the tiles for $3000 in total. (huge bargains to be found if you look) and my tiler charged me $12,700 to lay them!! Massive savings!! My tiler did a far better job too! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 19Jun 14, 2012 12:26 am Hi Redd. The doors are just melamine. Laminex satin heartwood. I wouldn't put timber veneer in wet areas. We saved that for the kitchen. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Hobless showers and full height tiling question (WA) 20Jun 14, 2012 12:33 am PHL Wanderer PHL We have a hobless shower, with full height tiles and no door. We elected to have one side half tiled wall and half frameless glass, so it would not look so closed in, and give the illusion of a wider opening. This is exactly what we want to do. Could you post a photo please? Cheers Wanderer Sure. http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o563/PHL2012/DSC01046.jpg You can just see the shower head. The shower area is behind the wall to the left of the vanity and that piece of frameless glass. OMG.... takes breath away! Jen Building with HomeGroupWA (started as Scott Park Homes ) - Grand Wisteria Check out my Build Thread!! Time line on P1. This is the current bathroom with a european laundry. 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