Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Sep 11, 2010 6:56 pm Just went through my place today for a check on progress and noticed a few things not quite right with the bathroom tiling, for a few of the bathrooms. Sorry, no pics available yet, but will try to decribe it. The wall tiles are 200mm x 300mm. They are all white except for a feature type tile which has a band across the top of the tile, about 50mm of the 300mm high tile. They have installed this band pattern as the top tile, so that the band is the highest point. I would have thought this band pattern should be inbetween white tiles, not at the extreme edging of the top tiles, I think it will look bad when finished. Also, the floor tiling layout looks bad. I am using 200mm x 200mm for the floor. in 2 or 3 of the bathrooms, the bath forms one wall. There is only a small strip of tiles about 30mm wide which ends at the bath. I think it looks bad. Is there a minimum width cut which should be used? Also, in one bathroom in the shower corner, the wall tiles are small strips too, a 20mm strip and 30mm strip meeting at the internal corner. It just doesn't seem right. I'll try to get some pics up. Just wondering if there are minimum width cuts which should be made? Thanks Re: Bad Tile Layout 2Sep 13, 2010 2:47 am BlackSpider Just went through my place today for a check on progress and noticed a few things not quite right with the bathroom tiling, for a few of the bathrooms. Sorry, no pics available yet, but will try to decribe it. The wall tiles are 200mm x 300mm. They are all white except for a feature type tile which has a band across the top of the tile, about 50mm of the 300mm high tile. They have installed this band pattern as the top tile, so that the band is the highest point. I would have thought this band pattern should be inbetween white tiles, not at the extreme edging of the top tiles, I think it will look bad when finished. Where did you ask for them to go, or did you leave it up to the installer to decide? Re: Bad Tile Layout 3Sep 13, 2010 12:26 pm Hi AJW, No, I didn't request any specific laying method. I am just expecting a standard and acceptable job. I have included some pics now. Can anyone see if the comments I made in the first post should be disregarded. I don't know what is a standard and acceptable job. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ How about the tiles on the internal corner for the shower in the last photo. Could this have been done any other way than a small strip of tile on both walls at the internal corner? Thanks Spider Re: Bad Tile Layout 4Sep 13, 2010 1:15 pm I think the feature tile looks fine, but agree about the shower corner, it surely would have been better to have the small tiles on the outside, but then the skirting tiles around the bottom of the walls wouldn't have lined up. my new build thread- Ben Trager https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=89826 my switch build thread (2011) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36569 Re: Bad Tile Layout 5Sep 13, 2010 1:45 pm feature tile - I think it's a shame that he's done it like that and not the way you wanted, but if there were no specific instructions it isn't really his fault, maybe he was just doing it the way he thought looked best? it looks fine, anyway, IMO. If the grout hasn't been done yet, (or even if it has) you could go round with a 6 pack next time he's there and ask him if he wouldn't mind changing it for you? I think the bath tiles look fine, with the shorter bit at the top it almost looks like the tile is just turning the corner over to the top of the hob. not sure about the shower corner. I guess he could have done the smaller bits on the outside rather than in the corner, but would that have looked any better? "Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." — Elizabeth Gilbert Living in our new house. Currently scaping the land. Re: Bad Tile Layout 6Sep 13, 2010 1:50 pm I hate little strips of tile like in front of your bath - sorry. I agree with the previous poster that the incomplete shower tiles should have gone on the outside edges. that way they'll be hidden by the shower screen. I also agree with you that the border tile should have faced the other way but to be honest it doesn't look terrible. here's the thing. I don't think there are really standards with tiling. There is just professionalism & laziness & i think your tiler could be classed in the latter category. I would ALWAYS discuss cuts and layouts before the job commences. But that's 'cos I have a peculiar dislike of this kind of thing. With jobs i do myself i always measure out the whole job with string lines & plan where the cut tiles will be. If there will be a strip at one end, I plan it so that there is a centre line of tiles & work out from there, leaving both edges with cut tiles, but still twice as big as they'd be if I went from one end to another. This is not rocket science but it amazes me what some people try to get away with. It would have been helpful, especially with the border tiles, if someone at least asked you how they wanted them! Like i said, I have a thing about bad tiling and I would be jumping up & down, Whether you have any recourse is another matter, as I guess the job is not 'faulty' as such (unless the tiles fall off). it depends on what kind of people you're dealing with. Re: Bad Tile Layout 7Sep 13, 2010 2:10 pm Thanks for the replies. Seems that most think the band tile on the top edge looks ok. Maybe I was just expecting it to be the other way around, that's why it initially didn't look right to me. I'm not too concerned about it though. When there is some paint on the walls, it should look much better. Regarding the cuts, I suppose they just do it the quickest way possible. If I were paying a custom builder, I believe you could be more fussy, but it's just a project building co. When it's finished and there are other nice things to focus on in the room, these little details probably won't be noticed anyway. Thanks Spider Re: Bad Tile Layout 8Sep 14, 2010 5:02 pm BlackSpider Thanks for the replies. Seems that most think the band tile on the top edge looks ok. Maybe I was just expecting it to be the other way around, that's why it initially didn't look right to me. I'm not too concerned about it though. When there is some paint on the walls, it should look much better. Regarding the cuts, I suppose they just do it the quickest way possible. If I were paying a custom builder, I believe you could be more fussy, but it's just a project building co. When it's finished and there are other nice things to focus on in the room, these little details probably won't be noticed anyway. Thanks Spider Actually having the cuts in the middle is quite normal and not a cost saving exercise. Generally speaking it does look better to do it that way, same too with starting in the middle of the wall. If you look at your pictures you will see 1 shower where the tile is wide and it looks good having the cut on the inside, but the smaller one does look a tad odd. As for the border, unless you specify where it is to go the tiler will do what they think looks best. Different tastes different opinions. So always best to be specific about what you want. Re: Bad Tile Layout 9Sep 15, 2010 10:38 am Generally you dont want cuts near doorways or where people will stand as they are most likely to crack / break compared to a full tile. Putting the small cut at the back of the shower puts it where there is the least weight and wear on it, so least likely to get problems. When people are doing project's we analyse them to death. Once the shower screen is in and you are using the shower, I guarantee the only time you will notice the tiles again is if you are on your knees cleaning them Re the feature tile, like others have said, if you wanted a specific pattern you needed to tell them that. It's a matter of taste and he has done it to his taste due to no other directions Re: Bad Tile Layout 10Sep 15, 2010 11:03 am I reckon it looks perfectly normal. If the shower had the small tiles on the outside edge it would mean that the entire edge would be cut tiles. Would look absolutely crapola. With full tiles the edge of the tiling is the actual natural edge of the tile. Much cleaner and neater. Much better to have the tiny floor tiles near the bath than near the doorway. Looks much better to enter a room with full tiles at the doorway rather than little bits of tiles (and the break factor mentioned above by tjilpi). That's a personal dislike of mine.... I hate cut tiles at the beginning of the tiling (e.g. doorway), I mich prefer full tiles there, and if it means short bits at the other end (the bath) then so be it. How yours is done is exactly how I'd want it done. As for the feature tile, I quite like it up there! Every man and his dog has the feature tile running in a band with one tile above. Now your bathroom is a little bit unique. Think of it that way. I agree with some other posters, once it's grouted, you won't even think about it. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Bad Tile Layout 11Sep 15, 2010 12:10 pm Having the feature strip right at the top will add height to your shower - I think it will look great that way! While the cut strips in the last shower pic are very narrow, the only way to avoid such a narrow cut would have been to have the tiles start at the vanity unit and extend across - and I think that may have made the vanity space look cramped. It's probably more of a function of the width of the tiles and the width of the space rather than poor planning on the tiler's part. (He hasn't done that for the other showers.) I wouldn't be too disappointed just yet - you would be amazed how much less noticeable the strips are once it is grouted and the room is painted. Possibly both depending on the sizing. 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