Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Dec 30, 2009 7:09 pm I am trying to remove our old toilet to put in a new one in ensuite. The old toilet I assume was put in when the house was built in 1982. I've disconnected the inlet hose, emptied the water, and removed the cistern tank from the wall. The toilet is an S type one that goes into the floor. I've also removed the four screws that were holding the toilet to the floor, but still can't get the toilet to budge. It appears to be grouted to the floor, methods I have read say just to rock the toilet bowl back and forth until it shifts, but I can't get it to move not a millimetre. Any advice appreciated I would like to keep the floor tiles intact as I don't have any spares. Also when I eventually get this thing out, can I just put the new toilet in its spot and run some silicone around its base or will I have to grout it to the floor like the current one. Assuming it is grout that is, it could be cement? Re: removing old toilet? 2Dec 30, 2009 7:21 pm elly I am trying to remove our old toilet to put in a new one in ensuite. The old toilet I assume was put in when the house was built in 1982. I've disconnected the inlet hose, emptied the water, and removed the cistern tank from the wall. The toilet is an S type one that goes into the floor. I've also removed the four screws that were holding the toilet to the floor, but still can't get the toilet to budge. It appears to be grouted to the floor, methods I have read say just to rock the toilet bowl back and forth until it shifts, but I can't get it to move not a millimetre. Any advice appreciated I would like to keep the floor tiles intact as I don't have any spares. Also when I eventually get this thing out, can I just put the new toilet in its spot and run some silicone around its base or will I have to grout it to the floor like the current one. Assuming it is grout that is, it could be cement? When you install the new toilet, you can just silicon it to the tiles and fix it with the pan screws provided Re: removing old toilet? 3Dec 30, 2009 7:28 pm Thankyou, i will try the stanley knife first. I thought it may be concrete but it does look like grout, its the same colour as the grout too, a kind of sandstone colour. I tried holding a flat blade screwdriver to it and hitting with a hammer which achieved only a few flakes off it! I will update after the stanley knife attack When I install the new toilet using the screws what do I do if the new toilet holes don't line up with the old, do I have to drill holes into the floor first or just force the new screws into the concrete? Re: removing old toilet? 4Dec 30, 2009 7:33 pm elly When I install the new toilet using the screws what do I do if the new toilet holes don't line up with the old, do I have to drill holes into the floor first or just force the new screws into the concrete? Let us know how you go Havent seen too many toilets at all held down with grout, the majority are concrete. Re: removing old toilet? 5Dec 30, 2009 9:51 pm thanks heaps for the advice I had a go at it with the stanley knife, this was scraping some of the concrete off but very slowly. I then switched to a spade drill bit in my hammer drill, putting the point right against the edge of the toilet and slowly drilling while moving along. Have cleared about 10cm of one side going in about 5mm that way but didn't have time to continue. Will finish that off tomorrow and then try moving it again. As soon as i broke the surface of the sandstone coloured grout/concrete the concrete dust changed to pinkish red, not sure what that is. It is now obvious that the tiles don't go under the toilet as first appeared. I had thought the tiles went under then a rim of grout or concrete had been used around the edge, but it is now clear the tiles have been cut to fit around the toilet. I hope the toilet wasn't cemented in all the way under or I will have no chance of getting it out? Also this means I will have to ensure the base of the new toilet is of a similar shape and size to the old one, so we don't have giant gaps of no tile. Re: removing old toilet? 6Dec 31, 2009 8:15 am What's your floor constructed of? We replaced a toilet in our old house and it was just screwed to the floorboards (we were on stumps), then grout plus silicone or some kind of sealant was used after the tiles were laid. The new one went in exactly the same way.... although we ripped out and replaced all the tiles, which made it a bit easier. Come to think of it, we also ripped up the floorboards and put in a new section of yellowtongue before installing the new loo and retiling. (3 boys + floorboards under grout x 14 years = BIG pong ) If you're on a slab, it may be a different story. Re: removing old toilet? 7Dec 31, 2009 1:20 pm thanks kek, this house is just a regular 80's brick 'n tile on a concrete slab The tiles in the hall outside the bedroom/ensuite were laid directly on the slab - you can see this because there is a step down into the next room and the carpet on the side of step is coming away a bit, yeh a fixer upper lol. So I assume the tiles in the ensuite were also laid direct to the slab as well, not with any board under or anything like that. Re: removing old toilet? 8Dec 31, 2009 10:06 pm I recently replaced my laundry toilet, also in a 80's brick & tile home. I got as far as you are, then got the plumber to do the rest. It was cemented onto the slab floor so he used a jackhammer to get it off. The new toilet has a slightly bigger base so it just sits on top of the tiles and he siliconed around the edges. You can't really tell that it isn't tiled all the way under, which is good as I really didn't want to retile the floor! If you haven't bought your new loo yet, just make sure it's bigger and you'll be ok Re: removing old toilet? 9Dec 31, 2009 10:49 pm Oh i hope i don't have to pay a plumber to come out, oherwise i would have just left it and let them do the whole thing! Hopefully the hammer drill will be a good enough substitute for jackhammer!...Sledge hammer maybe lol... Re: removing old toilet? 10Dec 31, 2009 11:30 pm The cement doesn't stick well it, & if the screws are out it will budge off if you give it a shove sideways. Don't bang it or it might shatter and make a big mess. (or cut you... porcelain is sharp) We recently replaced 21 old bogs with new ones. To be truthful the plumber did the installs Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: removing old toilet? 12Jun 16, 2010 12:33 am scozzy I had a plumber here anyway as I was moving the washing machine taps and installing a new laundry sink as well. He charged me $250 for the toilet bit. $250 for removing and installing the toilet? elly Oh i hope i don't have to pay a plumber to come out, oherwise i would have just left it and let them do the whole thing! Hopefully the hammer drill will be a good enough substitute for jackhammer!...Sledge hammer maybe lol... Elly, what happened to this? Did you manage to finally rip out the toilet by the chiesel or knife? I am also looking to tackle this shortly and from the looks of the bowl, it does look like it's concrete to the floor! Secondly, after you take off the old toilet, how do you put it back on? THere'd still be concrete stuck to the bottom of it? 6 11144 The best advice is for you to get a competent building consultant to guide you through your build 7 4675 Looking at some of the designs on websites, they are all selling very similar products. I get that you want something stylish. It's worth looking for search terms like SaveH2O… 2 7006 |