Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Apr 01, 2009 8:23 pm Hi All, We are currently planning on tiling the walls of our downstairs loo. The floor is already tiled & the toilet is already cemented to the floor & plumbed in and working. It's a Caroma Opal 2000 close-coupled toilet. The toilet pan itself is set 10mm away from the wall - just enough according to the tiler, to enable him to tile up to the pan & make it look neat. So there's no need to remove the pan itself. Now, for the tricky part. The cistern is up against the wall, so it's 10mm closer to the wall than the pan is. I am hoping to remove the cistern, have the tiler tile behind it & then replace the cistern. I am assuming the following.... the inlet connection can be adjusted 10mm out... and the cistern will fit OK to the pan 10mm further out from the gyproc than it was before (because of the tiles). If anyone can advise, I'd be happy to post any pics that may assist. Cheers Rikster We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 2Apr 01, 2009 8:42 pm Thought I'd post some pics. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Gaps between pan, cistern & wall. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Closeup of inlet valve... I'm hoping this can be adjusted 10mm further out ? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Complete cistern shot. We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 3Apr 01, 2009 8:45 pm The Opal 2000 is a wall face suite, so it 'should' have both the pan and the cistern against the wall. Because the flush pipe is built into the pan, that is the important thing that needs to line up perfectly. Just seen the pics now. I'll have to have a look at the one on display at work to see if it has that much gap. Can you get a pic of the front of the cistern where it meets the pan? Possumchops Now the proud owner of 3.7acres of Serenity. Colour selection completed! Soon to go to council. Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 4Apr 01, 2009 8:54 pm Possumchops The Opal 2000 is a wall face suite, so it 'should' have both the pan and the cistern against the wall. Because the flush pipe is built into the pan, that is the important thing that needs to line up perfectly. Just seen the pics now. I'll have to have a look at the one on display at work to see if it has that much gap. Can you get a pic of the front of the cistern where it meets the pan? Hi Possumchops, Thanks for your assistance on this. Here's the pics you requested. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Cistern & pan meeting point from the front. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Cistern & pan meeting point from the side. We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 5Apr 01, 2009 9:08 pm Will compare at work tomorrow and get back to you. Possumchops Now the proud owner of 3.7acres of Serenity. Colour selection completed! Soon to go to council. Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 6Apr 01, 2009 9:11 pm Possumchops Will compare at work tomorrow and get back to you. Thanks mate. We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 7Apr 02, 2009 6:58 pm Hi
I cant understand why you are trying to do it that way. When installing an Opal2000, the water point is, from memory, 850mm from finished floor level. A no. 19bp (15mm malex 15mm cu. bend) is left protruding from the wall so that when the wall is tiled, a male thread is left sticking out of the wall at the desired height. The wall and floor are tiled and then the pan and cistern are fitted. The distance is crucial as the pan itself is a p trap and the fitting kit turns it into an s trap. The fitting kit is braced to the wall, allowing the pan to butt cleanily up to the wall tiles. As the cistern is close coupled, it too will rest neatly onto the wall with the male thread sticking out through the cut away on the porceline. To try and fit the WC before the tiles are fitted is just making it difficult. Nothing looks worse than an ill fitting opal 2000. Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 8Apr 02, 2009 7:15 pm vvs mand Hi I cant understand why you are trying to do it that way. It wasn't by choice - if we knew what we know now, we would have had the builder tile the room. It's too long a story to tell, but basically we had the builder finish the room without tiling the walls. Now I think we are stuck. We either buy a brand new toilet so we can tile the walls, or we don't tile the walls. Currently, I'm just thinking we don't tile the walls. I've done enough spending on this house to offset the GFC. We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 9Apr 02, 2009 7:40 pm The thread serving your inlet valve can be easily extended. Thats not your problem. You problem, from what I understand is that if the pan is already fitted with the cistern fixed to it, and its hard up to the wall....did I get that bit right? when you tile the wall, your cistern will be 10mm out as far as your fixing bolts are concerned lining up with the bolt holes on your pan and wont line up with your pan. that is your problem....if I understood your post correctly. Re: Toilet & tiling dilema....plumbing advice needed please 10Apr 02, 2009 8:50 pm After looking and thinking about this, vvs is spot on. I don't think you can do it the way you were thinking, it just wouldn't be right. There are way too many things that need to line up perfectly and china just doesn't flex and bend. I still think that pan should be hard against the wall though, that gap shouldn't be there. Possumchops Now the proud owner of 3.7acres of Serenity. Colour selection completed! Soon to go to council. Building Standards; Getting It Right! Don't think they are designed for double brick. WA has a particular way of building and unfortunately that's the way a large amount of sills are finished. 3 7212 In my experience roof is essential element of the building envelope and hence a common property and should be covered by owners corporation however a detailed review of… 3 6260 For anyone that comes across this issue in the future - Just did what aussieta said and found a plumber to inspect it and sign off on it. Was difficult to find someone to… 3 7194 |