Browse Forums Bathrooms and Laundry 1 Oct 05, 2008 1:45 pm I am going to have this toilet tiled. Should I replace the toilet? See photos.
Someone said I should replace this toilet with a new one from Bunnings apparently they are cheap. The tiler would tile around the toilet wouldnt they? In which case if I wanted to replace it later, the new bowl stand might not match the shape of the cut tiles. I.e. would it be the case that if I am going to tile it would be the best time to replace the toilet before the tiling is done. The best way is probably to remove the toilet, tile, then put a new toilet on top of the tiles I guess but that is easier said that done. Does one need a plumber to replace the toilet? Would the pipes at the back match up to a new bowl? What about the option of just replacing the cistern if cosmetics is the issue? Anyone else been through this? Thanks Jesse Taylor Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I am renovating a 3 bed house. I have no trades experience but I am keen to learn how renovate. I really appreciate the advice people give me here because I dont have a car so it is hard to get around trades places to talk to people. Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 3Oct 05, 2008 1:53 pm Jesse, I would suggest you get a plumber to replace your toilet, there’s a bit of plumbing work to be done. The loo is not something you want to make mistakes with.
Get the new toilet from Bunning’s, this will save you money, as the plumber will charge you extra to get one. And as far as I know, the toilet goes in first, then you tile around the toilet. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 4Oct 05, 2008 2:53 pm You need to be careful what you buy - there's S & P type toilets - yours is a P, as it goes out the wall. In this case the height of the outlet, and the pipe on the wall, are critical.
Do the bowl first, then fit the cistern to suit the bowl (you'll need to trim the flush pipe to the correct length. You can plumb the cistern to the existing stop **** with a flexible braided hose. It's better practice to tile the entire floor, then place the toilet down, screwing through it's tie-down holes into the floor below, and then seal or grount around the base of the toilet to smooth it to the tiles. I've had 2 toilets done by a plumber, and 1 myself as a DIY, and all were on top of the tiles, and fitted after the room was finished. Depending on your location, you may find building codes dictate certain things - like they do with floor tiles much be under wall tiles, at the edges of the room etc. Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 5Oct 05, 2008 8:10 pm Michelle The loo is not something you want to make mistakes with. I was thinking the exact same thing. What is wrong with that toilet though? I just remember Sarah Beeny always saying on Property Ladder, if it's white and there's nothing wrong with it, give it a good clean and it'll be fine. Especially if you are reno-ing on a budget? Or you could just buy a nice new seat? I don't think I'd replace it unless I had to. I had a plumber replace a toilet a few years ago (as the old toilet was broken) - it cost around $400 including new toilet - just to give you a ballpark price. Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 6Oct 05, 2008 9:04 pm This if for a rental property, right? If so, I agree with Donuts in that it looks clean and decent and I really don't think you should worry about it unless you've got some extra cash left over Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 8Oct 06, 2008 8:15 am Just on that topic of dual flush - we had to get a cistern replaced a few weeks ago at work, because the bit that connects to the button broke, allowing the button to drop down inside the cistern.
I told them to go to bunnings, buy the guts & DIY, but they called in a Plumber. The Plumber fitted a new dual flush cistern, and told the accountant (who wanted a cheap fix) that by law he can no longer repair a non-dual flush cistern on commercial premises, and it has to be replaced by a dual. Good to see some intelligent laws finally being passed.... Tiling and replacing a toilet - advice sought 9Oct 06, 2008 7:39 pm I agree with those that say that the toilet is fine, especially for tenants. Painting the metal pipe white would help.
The reason I am wondering about replacing is because I am tiling and the tiler will cut the tiles around the toilet. I am thinking that later when I do get a new one, it might not match to the cut tiles. This is why I am wondering about replacing it now. I guess I could just keep some spare tiles... So what constitutes a nice seat? A wooden one - some people are put off by those cause of hygiene apparently. But when I looked at plastic ones, the expensive ones didnt look much better than the $6.95 ones. Perhaps I didnt look hard enough. I am renovating a 3 bed house. I have no trades experience but I am keen to learn how renovate. I really appreciate the advice people give me here because I dont have a car so it is hard to get around trades places to talk to people. Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 10Oct 06, 2008 8:06 pm I see your point about the cut tiles, but maybe it is not so hard to find a new toilet with the same dimensions as the old one at floor level? (Have no real idea about this though!)
With the seat - I also think the plastic ones are fine. If the current seat is in good nick then maybe just leave it! I agree painting that pipe would look better too. Re: Tiling and replacing a toilet - advice sought 11Oct 07, 2008 2:10 pm Gatoblanco I agree with those that say that the toilet is fine, especially for tenants. Painting the metal pipe white would help. The reason I am wondering about replacing is because I am tiling and the tiler will cut the tiles around the toilet. I am thinking that later when I do get a new one, it might not match to the cut tiles. This is why I am wondering about replacing it now. I guess I could just keep some spare tiles... So what constitutes a nice seat? A wooden one - some people are put off by those cause of hygiene apparently. But when I looked at plastic ones, the expensive ones didnt look much better than the $6.95 ones. Perhaps I didnt look hard enough. Find a Caroma Caravelle seat, then compare that to the $6.95 seat. There is a huge difference. The Caroma seat is plastic, but it's a medium duty plastic and it's a lot thicker and more comfortable than the cheap ones. I've seen them at Clive Peters here in Sydney, but any plumbing place can get them. From the looks of it, would probably fit your toilet. Greg Re: Should I replace this toilet - I am tiling 12Oct 11, 2008 7:55 pm Jesse,
If you get a plumber to tile and put in a new toilet, they'll probably tile first and sit the bowl on top (with approx 8-10mm gap, filled with silicon). I have never replaced P-trap toilets before, but would imagine that the distance between the floor level (whether concrete or tile) to the centre of the outlet would be pretty important to get right. The rubber diaphragm would be somewhat forgiving but if you find that you're too far out (ie not sealing well), you might be in big trouble. Chris ok thanks - yes was wondering if that should have been listed as Option Three! 2 7741 Your house roof does not show rusting other than some surface rust on the flashings. In my opinion you dont need to replace or paint the roof other than treat surface rust… 1 10207 |