Browse Forums Heating, Cooling & Insulation 1 Feb 23, 2015 10:06 pm I have read couple of thread and really confused. Is there any benfits in indroducing more zone for home? I will give you the scenerio. Fujitsu 6hp single phase inverter ducted system with 2 zones and up to 8 outlets in single storey house (175sqm) for Zone1: Living & Family Zone 2: 4 bedrooms We not gong to use 2 bedrooms very often for some time. So I am thinking of introducting another zone and spilt zone2 : bed1 and bed2 zone3 : bed3: znd bed4. Is there any benefit in doing this? Is it possible to keep two zone and block the outlets in when it not used? Thanks. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 2Feb 23, 2015 10:28 pm Ours is zoned in 4 zones, a common zone plus zone 1, 2, 3, you must always run common zone and has many or none of zones 1, 2, 3, advantages are running less of the house, we generally run 1/2 or 3/4 of house. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 3Feb 24, 2015 8:27 am Definitely, why have the aircon trying to cool the whole house instead of the rooms you are in?, and if you have doors in the right places and enough zones, you can save plenty as trying to keep 4 rooms at 21 degrees will always be much less efficient than 2 rooms at 21 degreees for example, more zones is always good! Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 4Feb 24, 2015 8:35 am Only really for comfort and efficiency of the system. You wont save much electricity running less zones. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 6Feb 24, 2015 1:37 pm steevo Definitely, why have the aircon trying to cool the whole house instead of the rooms you are in?, and if you have doors in the right places and enough zones, you can save plenty as trying to keep 4 rooms at 21 degrees will always be much less efficient than 2 rooms at 21 degreees for example, more zones is always good! My builder suggested. We could block the air vent when they are not used. I understand we have to manually tighten the air vent or outlet would be bit annoying . Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 7Feb 24, 2015 2:30 pm Ponzu Only really for comfort and efficiency of the system. You wont save much electricity running less zones. It depends on whether your system is variable or not. The higher spec Actron's are so you get the benefit of not using all of the zones. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 8Feb 24, 2015 3:13 pm For bedrooms you don't really have to shut the vent, just close the door to the room. The initial air from the vents pressurises the room which then stops the flow. The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 9Feb 24, 2015 4:13 pm Ponzu Only really for comfort and efficiency of the system. You wont save much electricity running less zones. But when you have more zone the you will have a smaller area to manage so it does not take too long to cool down or heat. Running air con for shorter term will save some running cost. Is n't ? Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 10Feb 24, 2015 8:43 pm Yes you will save electricity by isolating zones and closing the door. The condenser and the fan coil will be doing less work therefore consuming less energy. It's very basic engineering 101. You are conditioning a lower volume of air, with less energy loss through windows etc. It will cost more for the zone motors and controls, but if you use your air conditioning regularly, the cost would be paid back eventually. Without knowing the full design details or how much you will use it, it's difficult to say how long the payback period would be. As a "back of the beer coaster" approximation, if those two bedrooms make up 10% of the overall conditioned space of your house, you'd use roughly 10% less energy if you isolated them. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 11Feb 25, 2015 2:13 pm Technically tru but not always so in practice. I have the same size home and largest single phase system and on days it needs to be used (35 plus)its on flat chat at 18 d3grees just to keep house at a 25. Zone motors are a negligable running cost as they just push the air to the desired location. These are pwered by a few watts. The cooling unit in the range of 12-15 kw has upwards of 3-4kw/h running costs per hour. Check your tech specs and check your electricity prices for a good view of what you will be paying. More relevant is where your return air and thermo stat sit. I have some rooms that get significantly cooler than where the thermostat is so the system will keep cooling. Next build will have 3 phase power and a larger system with more efficient inverter. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 12Feb 25, 2015 2:18 pm Also we have 4 zones because each bedroom has very specific needs. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 13Feb 25, 2015 2:30 pm Our 17kw actron regularly runs 3 of 4 zones in a 38square house, does keep temp on days around 35 at 22 degrees , worst it gets is 24 if turned on really late and its really hot. Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 14Feb 25, 2015 4:59 pm Yes, if your system is incorrectly designed (ie undersized), then it will be spinning it's ringer off in hot conditions regardless of whether or not one or two zones are isolated. But a correctly engineered system will perform as I described. Personally, I'd be going with higher efficiency rather than higher input power. Geothermal heat pump compressor with an Actron fan coil unit would be my choice. More than 2 times more efficient than regular inverter air to air condenser unit. Requires some drilling into the ground for the heat rejection loops though so is a bit more expensive than traditional AC Re: Is there any benefits in muliple zoning in ducted air-co 15Feb 25, 2015 6:33 pm My system is actron. Largest size for single phase. The op has same size home. Unless he gets 3ohase and a more efficient unit, my comments are as accuate. Extra zones will be for comfort mostly. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Hi all, sorting out the ducted air con for a 350sqm double story house. Does this placement sound reasonable to you? Also, I plan to have 6 zones I think. Living room… 0 0 Hi all, sorting out the ducted air con for a 350sqm double story house. I think i plan to have 6 zones I think. Living room (mainly for entertainment so not used often),… 0 0 0 6272 |