Browse Forums Heating, Cooling & Insulation 1 Dec 29, 2007 5:51 pm I'm dying in this heat! And I don't know if I can make it through the next few days! Acckk! Fingers sticking to the keyboard!
I've heard that getting cooling installed during summer is bad as prices are higher. Is this true? We thought that we could survive this summer and wait until next year before installing cooling (ducted refrigerated) but now we're having second thoughts. Should we wait or are prices generally the same give or take a few...ermmm...hundred dollars? [sneakersss] Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 2Dec 29, 2007 6:03 pm Missy, the problem is getting someone out to install it at the moment.
My parents bought a split system to accomodate for us moving in and helping us cope with the heat over summer (collective awwwww ![]() ![]() But we can't get anyone out to install it....we've been calling and no-one calls back or says that they'll get back to us....grrrrrrr... still waiting.... it was supposed to be installed prior to X'mas. I think for the sake of a few hundred (if that's all it is??), do your homework and haggle as best you can to get the best price but ultimately someone who can install it BEFORE summer is over.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Try looking at some interest free deals that are around... Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 3Dec 29, 2007 6:06 pm ![]() Missy, the problem is getting someone out to install it at the moment. My parents bought a split system to accomodate for us moving in and helping us cope with the heat over summer (collective awwwww ![]() ![]() But we can't get anyone out to install it....we've been calling and no-one calls back or says that they'll get back to us....grrrrrrr... still waiting.... it was supposed to be installed prior to X'mas. I think for the sake of a few hundred (if that's all it is??), do your homework and haggle as best you can to get the best price but ultimately someone who can install it BEFORE summer is over.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh yeah, good point! Hadn't even thought of that. ![]() [sneakersss] Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 4Dec 29, 2007 6:44 pm I have to add here, that those LUCKY members of our forum who now have their new houses with the same Brivis ICE refridgerated air cond. that we'll have when our place is built (next year)..... ![]() ![]() ![]() We'd love to come around and perform some quality control checks of your system over a few drinks perhaps.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() (The members in particular would be Matt and Vanderlay!!!! ![]() ![]() Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 5Dec 29, 2007 7:00 pm I also can't wait for my house to be built so I can finally get aircon - I did the grocery shopping today just so I could hang out in the frozen food section for a while ![]() I know an aircon guy through work. If you like I can contact him and see if he would be available and try to get a rough install price for you. Dana Dana -------------------------- Building with DFH - carpet installed! Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 6Dec 29, 2007 8:54 pm Try advertising for someone to do an install on www.servicecentral.com.au
I have had a fantastic reponse when I posted requests for someone to do decking and then to pick up and install a cubby..... On another note, why refrigerated aircon ? you could lower costs just by going for evaporative ? Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 7Dec 29, 2007 9:05 pm ![]() Try advertising for someone to do an install on www.servicecentral.com.au I have had a fantastic reponse when I posted requests for someone to do decking and then to pick up and install a cubby..... On another note, why refrigerated aircon ? you could lower costs just by going for evaporative ? Hi Rellie, didn't think of servicecentral this time, last time i used them the guy wanted to charge me $$$ for a quote ![]() ![]() Trying to make his money back i bet ![]() ![]() We've had evap before and believe me, when you go for a slider on timber boards and end up flat on your back....it's not nice....had evap in the last 3 homes.... We've always wanted refridgerated so this time we're doing it....at double the cost of evap but what's cost of comfort.... ![]() ![]() Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 8Dec 29, 2007 10:12 pm ![]() We've had evap before and believe me, when you go for a slider on timber boards and end up flat on your back....it's not nice....had evap in the last 3 homes.... We've always wanted refridgerated so this time we're doing it....at double the cost of evap but what's cost of comfort.... ![]() ![]() We've got evap and boards and we haven't had a problem ![]() ![]() Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 9Dec 29, 2007 10:44 pm We had condensation and it wasn't even a humid day!!!! Ended up having all my towels laid out on the floor to walk on through the house.... ![]() ![]() Hopefully i won't regret the refridgerated....i wish Matt was online, i need to ask him how his is coping with the heat.... will find out next year though.... ![]() ![]() Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 10Dec 30, 2007 8:00 am We run both systems in our place. I’ve been using evaporative cooling in our houses for around 15years, and the units have come along way in that time. I think two things come into play with evaporative cooling; one is that they are of sufficient size for the area you are trying to cool and the second making sure you don’t open up your house too much. I vent ours out through the garage.
There are also three air conditioners installed which were sized up for each room with the piping installed during construction. The reason we had these installed is because the rooms have dedicated purposes, i.e. study so it’s only required when we’re working in there. We also have one in our bedroom, great for those hot nights… Obviously the evaporative cooling is not installed in these rooms. Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 11Dec 30, 2007 8:24 am Nice to know it’s not just us in the heat at the moment!!!
I ran my aricon at 17 yesterday….I was struggling with that temp, my house was so hot! I feel lucky…….most of the time I can pick up the phone and have someone here in 2 days to do work for me. I bought my aircon, from an electrical store, rang my aircon guy, and he was here in 2 days to install it. You won’t get anything done till after New Year. Things should start to go back to normal by the end of the first week. YSSIM….. I bought my aircon mid last summer….I got a discount……check around, you will be surprised at what you can find, they are all usually competing with each other for sales. ![]() Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 12Dec 31, 2007 3:17 pm ![]() I ran my aricon at 17 yesterday….I was struggling with that temp, my house was so hot! You did know there's no point running it at 17 degrees? It won't make it get colder any faster - it'll just work harder and longer to try to get to 17 but most likely never will. Also, each degree you drop the temp by raises energy consumption by 10%. 22 or 23 degrees is an ideal temperature to set your aircon to, but if it's 40 outside, try setting it to 25 or 26. It's a lot cooler than it is outside, your aircon unit *might* be able to achieve that temperature, and you'll save a lot of energy. Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 14Dec 31, 2007 6:11 pm This is a good time of the year to get airconditioning - after Xmas and you should be able to get it on sale.
We tried to purchase our gas heater recently (thinking it would be cheaper in summer) but they told us heaters don't go on sale until April as most ppl arent interested in heating in summer. They had cooling units on sale at the time (just before Xmas). Our evap airconditioning is struggling so we went out an bought a kiddie wading pool for tonights NYE party ![]() ![]() ![]() 43 degrees in Adelaide ![]() Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 15Jan 03, 2008 11:07 pm Ok so a bit of an update.
9.00am tomorrow we're having the air conditioned installed.... Wooo hoo cause it's 37 again on Saturday so just in time - i say!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Anyway, had to ring and blast the crap out of the installer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Missy how did you go????? Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 16Jan 03, 2008 11:21 pm ![]() Ok so a bit of an update. 9.00am tomorrow we're having the air conditioned installed.... Wooo hoo cause it's 37 again on Saturday so just in time - i say!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Anyway, had to ring and blast the crap out of the installer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Missy how did you go????? Hey, that's great! At least one of us will be comfortable. Hehe Well, we were SO close to getting the AC. But to get the brivis add-on that suits our current heater model it's going to cost us around the 8k mark. We were only willing to pay 4-5k at the moment. However, it's not because we're naive and think that AC is cheap it's that we were actually misinformed. Prior to the building of our house commencing we were actually already getting quotes for AC. But...and it's a big but...we were told the wrong information regarding which actual model heater we are getting installed in the house. So, there I was getting quotes for a smaller and less powerful model. Then the other day when we checked our paperwork and manuals we actually have a bigger and more powerful model. So, the add-on is going to cost more. Then...we contemplated getting the AC but that would mean having to give up and majorly post-pone the decking. Which is probably slightly more important once the wet (if it ever rains again - hehe) weather arrives. So, let this be a lesson learned for those in the early stages of building a house - GET AC INSTALLED BEFORE and include it in your mortgage! Oh, and also tripple check the information you are given by your builder regarding stuff like this. But I am not at all blaming my CSR for the wrong information. NOT! Really, I'm not mad. I just get cranky in the hot weather! ![]() [sneakersss] Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 17Jan 03, 2008 11:28 pm Missy $8K is a really good price after the fact though!!!
Have you checked out my thread? http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3387 on the Brivis Ice system and my search for pricing? It's more than $8K but less than what Matt paid... What were you quoted for $8K - can i ask??? Just that afterwards it was going to cost us much more and we decided to bite the bullet and add it in through H3nley...in the building process. We have a HE35i heater and 12 points for both heater and air cond. 2 zones included. It depends in the end on 2 things - budget and what type of cooling you are after, evap or refridgerated is suppose? Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 18Jan 03, 2008 11:47 pm ![]() Missy $8K is a really good price after the fact though!!! Have you checked out my thread? http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3387 on the Brivis Ice system and my search for pricing? It's more than $8K but less than what Matt paid... What were you quoted for $8K - can i ask??? Just that afterwards it was going to cost us much more and we decided to bite the bullet and add it in through H3nley...in the building process. We have a HE35i heater and 12 points for both heater and air cond. 2 zones included. It depends in the end it depends on 2 things - budget and what type of cooling you are after, evap or refridgerated is suppose? Oh yeah, 8k is a good price, I agree. We are fine with that price but you know, we have to be smart at the moment. Can't just spend every cent we have. ![]() And I have been following your thread. ![]() In hindsight, we should've included it with the builder. But the fact we were given the wrong information by certain people was the reason we decided to not include it. You see, the builder quoted us 10k. And when we got independent quotes we were getting values between 3-5k. So we thought that the buiilder was trying to rip us off bad. Now it all comes together and seems there was some slight crossing of wires because we obviously weren't all on the same page. Anyway, we were told we were going to get the Brivis 2PW20 but we actually do have the ME30i with 9 points and 2 zones (zone 1 - bedrooms, zone 2 - all other living areas). We were told that to get the add-on with the current set-up we have would start at around 7.5k. The consultant suggested we get a couple more points and add more zones. Each zone would cost another $250. We'll consider getting another outlet point or so but I don't think it's necessary to have 4-5 zones at the consultant was suggesting! I can get through tomorrow as I'll be at work. Not sure how I'm going to keep cool on Saturday, though. Probably hide in the fridge! ![]() [sneakersss] Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 19Jan 03, 2008 11:55 pm Missy from my understanding, $7.5K is about the cost of the unit itself, then you need 3 phase power and possibly upgraded meter to your board-(not sure of which meter you have), you need your ducts upgraded to the larger size to accomodate the refrigerated system, plus install, plus running the water lines, power to the point. By the look of your house, 2 zones should be fine, 3 at the most in my opinion - but hey i'm not the expert....
We did the shopping around and compared quotes....I didn't want the issue of the air conditioning contractors saying that the builder didn't do something correctly, as they might, and now it's going to cost more to "fix" it.... Typical me, over-analyze everything, it was out of our budget....but we bit the bullet and committed...i've been told by a few people that i won't regret it.... Good luck with fitting in the fridge on Sat???? But if you got through the 42 degree days, hopefully you'll be okay this time...or else go out and spend the day in a shopping centre and stay cool there..... Re: Is now a bad time to get air conditioning? 20Jan 04, 2008 12:11 am ![]() Missy from my understanding, $7.5K is about the cost of the unit itself, then you need 3 phase power and possibly upgraded meter to your board-(not sure of which meter you have), you need your ducts upgraded to the larger size to accomodate the refrigerated system, plus install, plus running the water lines, power to the point. By the look of your house, 2 zones should be fine, 3 at the most in my opinion - but hey i'm not the expert.... You would be correct. We're expecting the price will rise after a proper quote. We're still waiting for the proper written quote but when we were in the shop discussing options with the consultant that was his rough starting price. We already have three phase power as well as larger ducting in preparation of doing the add-on after handover. I'm aware of the water lines situation, not aware of the meter box upgrade (care to elaborate?) and don't know what you mean by power to the point. If you mean a powerpoint for the external unit then we also have that, too. And I agree, I think 2 zones will suffice. ![]() We did the shopping around and compared quotes....I didn't want the issue of the air conditioning contractors saying that the builder didn't do something correctly, as they might, and now it's going to cost more to "fix" it.... Typical me, over-analyze everything, it was out of our budget....but we bit the bullet and committed...i've been told by a few people that i won't regret it.... The consultant is already telling us they will need to 'inspect' the builders work to make sure they did it properly. ![]() ![]() Good luck with fitting in the fridge on Sat???? But if you got through the 42 degree days, hopefully you'll be okay this time...or else go out and spend the day in a shopping centre and stay cool there..... Thank you for your well wishes. ![]() [sneakersss] 9 6130 You might be able to apply to divert the sewer at your expense. In NSW you would contact a Water services co-ordinator and they would give you advice as to whether or not… 1 3060 ![]() do not pay until you are satisfied with workmanship windows require flashing over the head archithrave and up under weatherboards 3 2050 ![]() |