Browse Forums Heating, Cooling & Insulation Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 5Mar 18, 2017 11:32 am Customised Burbank Indigo/Hawthorn in Officer VIC https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... 2#p1680752 Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 13Sep 18, 2017 11:08 am Thanks Joker, I like the way you've zoned it and will go with 4 zones too. Is your system wifi capable? Do you have a controller upstairs and downstairs? What are your electricity bills like during summer and winter? Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 14Oct 02, 2017 12:11 pm Just to add my personal experiences to this discussion, we recently had a 19kW Actron Que installed, covering five zones. While we haven't experienced summer with it yet, I have found it to be pretty good in winter for heating. We haven't seen a power bill yet, so that might change things a little bit. Things I like... - the new user interface is excellent - the individual room controllers are well designed and easy to use - remote access to the system worked immediately - wifi wasn't an add-on feature, it's part of the basic product - things are very quiet inside Things I don't like... - the outdoor unit is ridiculously loud, to the point where I worry about the neighbours hating us - installation quality wasn't spectacular, they appear to have forgotten to hook up drainage so we're getting water all over our carport floor - no 3-phase option for Que systems - 19kW max for Que systems, so larger houses like ours aren't able to heat/cool the entire building at once - slow startup for heating (it takes about 15 minutes before we feel any change to indoor temperature) It's definitely a good system, but you need to be careful with sizing and noise levels. Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 15Oct 03, 2017 3:05 pm Hi Lurgen. Good to hear that you like the Actron 19kw, although a bit noisy. A few queries: How have you set out your 4 zones? How much for entire system? What was the added cost for Que? How many squares is your home? Open plan I presume? Have you received your first energy bill yet. How does it compare to your previous bills? Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 16Oct 03, 2017 3:36 pm We have five zones - master bedroom, living room, kitchen / dining room, other bedrooms, office, with two return air vents. We can't run them all at once, the house is too big for that (~36 sq) but we have an 8kW split system in the kitchen that will pick up some of the load on the real scorchers. Based on how well it heats, I'd say we will be fine running all the zones at once up to about 30 degrees or so, after that it'll be a case of only cooling rooms we use. Our situation is helped slightly by the fact we are quite high up in the hills. We tend to see temperatures 3 or 4 degrees lower here than the rest of Melbourne, although I haven't been here through a summer yet. Prices for these things are high. We paid around $22k, with roughly $2k of that being the upgrade to the Que system. Some of that cost increase should be ignored though, as choosing the Que immediately leads to selecting better room controllers. When you compare this to putting in a bunch of split systems it actually comes out as a sensible-ish price. Having a fully integrated controller with phone integration, multiple room controllers, and all the bells and whistles is well worth the increase. We had two evaporative coolers in our last home, and three splits, and I reckon we paid close to the same price for that setup, despite it being a complete pain in the neck to use. The house isn't open plan either, it's a more traditional layout, so closing off sections is pretty easy to do. And no energy bills yet, it's very early days for us so I'll be watching things closely. It will be fun to go back through the logs and compared high energy use days to the bill based on the reports you get from the control panel. Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 17Oct 04, 2017 1:39 am Can someone guide me how come people are getting charged $20K+ for their ducted aircons, when the top model aircon itself costs less than $6K? e.g. https://www.airconditioning-online.com.au/daikin/ducted Am I not understanding something about the complexities of installation process and $15K+ is actually the cost of installation? Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 18Oct 04, 2017 9:38 am Sure. Yes, you can buy a split system for $6k installed but it doesn't solve the same problem, nor does it work anywhere near as well. Take my old house for example. We had a split in the office, another split in the master bedroom, and a third split in one of the bedrooms. Each cost aroudn $3.5K, so that's roughly $10k in splits. We wanted refrigerative AC in the living area, and found it'd cost at least $8k due to the size of the room so stuck with evap for that area. Had we gone down that path though, we'd have ended up spending $18K to cool four rooms. These four systems don't talk to each other, they all have slightly different user interfaces, and they take up a lot of outdoor space. Multi-head split would have been an option at this scale, but still, it's a complicated and incomplete setup that leaves large parts of the house without coverage. It also looked pretty rubbish, with wall units in each room taking up a big chunk of wall space. The ducted system on the other hand covers every single room in my house. There are no big chunky wall units in each room, just ceiling vents that are unobtrusive. The system is quieter (inside, at least) because the inside unit is up in the roof, well away from living areas. Every room shares a single user interface, which hooks in nicely to my phone and a central control panel. It cost me maybe $4k extra to get this kind of setup. Maybe. Had I put splits into four bedrooms, two living spaces and a large home office I cannot come up with a configuration that comes in for less than what I paid. This is a premium system though, don't get me wrong. There are cheaper ways to solve this problem, provided you're OK with making additional compromises. But there are also much more expensive options that could be chosen. I just reached a point where I was sick of a system that only worked in three rooms, was expensive to get serviced, and broke all the time. Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 19Oct 04, 2017 12:45 pm Hi Lurgen, Thanks for the info. But as I had mentioned above, DUCTED system costs $6K in supply. I wonder how much does ducted installation labour costs for a 2 storey house. But certainly not $15K. Re: Actron Ducted Air Conditioning 20Oct 04, 2017 6:19 pm alexp79 Hi Lurgen, Thanks for the info. But as I had mentioned above, DUCTED system costs $6K in supply. I wonder how much does ducted installation labour costs for a 2 storey house. But certainly not $15K. The unit itself might cost $6k, but that doesn't cover ductwork, vents, electrical, zone controllers, control panels, gas, wiring, etc, nor does it include an installation warranty. Buying something like this isn't a case of just chucking the parts in a corner and plugging them in, so the cost of the core unit is only a small part of the puzzle. The Daikin units you linked to aren't full systems, they are just the indoor and outdoor unit. My system took a day and a half for four professionals to install, two of which had undergone extensive training to be able to do this kind of work. I don't think it's a reasonable expectation that the wholesale cost of the hardware is going to be the final cost. 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