Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design 1 Jun 06, 2011 12:07 am I just happened to see the list of articles on the side of the forum tonight. I was a little shocked to see a Horticulturally themed article of this standard. I do read a few and think, oh dear... This guy is so on the money it isn't funny. His knowledge only reflects the small amount of training I've had from one of this states best. So I'll post the links and then I'll post them as quotes and add a few other links. You guys really should understand this stuff because trees can be an investment or a nightmare. You choose A management plan for any tree is a wise move and can be a huge help for anyone when it comes to insurance. The tree will feel the love too http://articles.homeone.com.au/never-fl ... -trees.php http://articles.homeone.com.au/tree-sur ... opping.php http://articles.homeone.com.au/tree-pru ... niques.php Re: Trees and the people that care for them 2Jun 06, 2011 12:08 am Horizon Tree Services Flush cutting is one of the many bad practices used by unqualified tree workers. It is the technique of pruning the stem, branch or major limb right back to its base. Whether this means cutting it back against the tree trunk or its parent limb, the technique prevents the tree’s natural healing mechanism from sealing the wound. All pruning cuts by qualified and experienced tree surgeons are selected to aid the trees natural defences, allowing the wound to be compartmentalised and sealed. When removing a limb, the final cut should be made just outside the branch-bark-ridge, or collar. The tissues in the collar contain the growth cells that will heal over the wound, and also the phenolic compounds that help resist infection whilst the wound is open. While we are here, let’s also mention the use of wound paints and sterilisation of cuts. It’s an open debate, but there is yet to be any really persuasive evidence that this is a necessary practice. There is however, some preliminary evidence to suggest that certain ingredients may interfere with the healing process. The tree has natural defences and mechanisms, and they have survived centuries of broken branches, and storm damage without the use of wound dressings..... So in summary - don’t flush cut! And don’t hire anyone who does! Re: Trees and the people that care for them 3Jun 06, 2011 12:09 am Horizon Tree Services I got asked the other day, “so you’re a tree-lopper?”. I nodded in agreement, silencing myself as I always do when given this particular label. Tree lopping is what it’s commonly known as, and we even actively advertise under ‘tree lopping’ because this is what people search for. But to some tree surgeons or arborists, to be called a tree lopper is like calling them an amateur, or a cowboy. Go on - next time you meet one, call him a tree-lopper – there’ll be a barely detectable wince as he nods, all the time thinking “yeah, thanks mate - glad I studied.” Tree lopping, as our industry defines it, is the indiscriminate cutting of trees, down to a certain height or size. There is no consideration of the tree’s health, or the correct pruning cuts, it’s just a case of: “So... where do you want it down to mate??” Arborists (or Tree Surgeons) frown upon this practice and the discredit it brings to the tree workers industry. We use a variety of pruning approaches and methods to ensure you get the result you want, and you are able to enjoy your trees in years to come. Tree Lopping is not a skill, and if you’ve seen an experienced arborist in action, it can be an impressive display. So please forgive our double standards; we will advertise under ‘tree lopping’, and agree when you call us ‘tree loppers’. But then we’ll sulk afterwards. Re: Trees and the people that care for them 4Jun 06, 2011 12:11 am Horizon Tree Services Topping: This is when the top of the tree is simply ‘lopped’ to a certain height, by cutting indiscriminately across the tree and canopy. If your tree surgeon recommends ‘topping’ your trees, then perhaps call someone else for a second opinion. It’s just plain not-good for your tree and results in epicormic growth which will cause you a headache later. If it’s the only option, then you should be aware that you are committing to having the tree continually managed every few years afterwards. Pollarding: Pollarding is a technique that removes all limbs and foliage back to the top of the trunk where the limbs begin to branch off, or to a height of about 2m, depending on the tree. Only certain species of tree should be pollarded, and to be honest, it’s rarely recommended. The re-growth will not match the texture or colour of the aged trunk and can make for an unsightly tree for a few years. This was a technique originally used for harvesting wood, on a cycle every so many years. The best example of ruining a good tree is to pollard something like a jacaranda......nice. Palm Tree Pruning: Palms need regular love to look their best. By simply removing the dead, withered fronds (palm lingo for the branchy things), along with those annoying seed pods, you can increase your enjoyment of your palm trees and make a big difference to your property. However tall or awkward your palm trees may look, one of our trained monkeys will be up it in no time making it look beautiful again. Trunk skinning: Certain palm trees, most notably the Canary Island Date Palm, can be trunk pruned to look awesome. The result is a snakeskin affect up to the canopy, where a chunk can then be shaped under the crown. There are lots of them on Riverside drive, or near the Burswood Casino: find the best looking one you can and you’ll almost have an idea of how good we can make them look! Re: Trees and the people that care for them 5Jun 06, 2011 12:12 am Horizon Tree Services Tree pruning is such an in-depth topic, we can’t possibly cover everything here, but some of the techniques are described below. Triple D prune: This is one of the best prunes you can give your tree, by removing Dead, Diseased or Damaged limbs. Afterwards the tree may have shed a considerable amount of unnecessary weight, and may be saved from spread of disease or new infections from weak entry points. Dead-wooding assists the trees natural shedding process without interfering in its growth habits. This should be incorporating into the other types of prune. Canopy Lifting: This is simply the removal of the lowest hanging branches from the trunk. It may be to remove branches obstructing a path or driveway, to allow more light to other plants, or simply to improve the shape and look of the tree. A common example of canopy lifting is performed on Bottlebrush trees, and can be seen on street verges everywhere. Canopy Thinning: This is a more selective technique of pruning, and can yield great results. Rather than reducing the outline shape and size of the tree, certain branches are removed to improve the light penetration and air flow through the canopy. Crossing over or unsightly limbs may also be removed. Canopy Reduction: Although this is one of the most common prunes asked for, it is often unsuitable for the tree. Some mature natives, e.g. gum trees, can be ruined by canopy reduction and rendered unsafe for the future. The epicormic regrowth that occurs after the tree is indiscriminately chopped down in height is often poorly secured to the tree. This growth often shoots vertically, and can be unsafe in windy weather years later. It can also be bloody ugly...... Re: Trees and the people that care for them 7Jun 06, 2011 12:17 am Re: Trees and the people that care for them 8Jun 07, 2011 3:37 pm Fu Manchu http://arboriculture.org.au/info/treeinfo.htm http://isaac.org.au/tcc/ http://isaac.org.au/info/faq.htm I find that when pruning it is best to use directional cuts. By this I mean if you want to completely remove a branch cut it just behind the last node and you will find that after about 6 weeks the stub will turn white,drop off and nothing will grow from that spot again. I had a problem with a neighbour whos tree was always growing over our fence and they were not interested in doing anything about it.So I leaned over the fence and cut some branches with an angled cut with the wound on the top so now the new branches grow downwards and remain on the neighbours property.Also the branches that were growing straight up I cut with the wound facing me so the new branches grow away from my fence.I can understand tree loppers not wanting to check every branch and cut it accordingly as they just want to hack the tree and collect the money but I feel that if you are advertising as the best in your trade you should do a really good job and feel proud of your work. Topiarius Re: Trees and the people that care for them 9Jun 10, 2011 12:01 pm [quote="topiarius"][quote="Fu Manchu"]
I had a problem with a neighbour whos tree was always growing over our fence and they were not interested in doing anything about it.So I leaned over the fence and cut some branches with an angled cut with the wound on the top so now the new branches grow downwards and remain on the neighbours property.Also the branches that were growing straight up I cut with the wound facing me so the new branches grow away from my fence. If they were the fruit trees over the fence, your neighbour would wander why all fruits gradually grow and fall to your side and finally on your table and he only had got the branches and twigs! I think he doesn't even know he's so lucky to have a pruning, hedging and topiary expert as a neighbour! Re: Trees and the people that care for them 10Jun 10, 2011 12:05 pm [quote="Fu Manchu"][quote="Horizon Tree Services"]Flush cutting is one of the many bad practices used by unqualified tree workers. It is the technique of pruning the stem, branch or major limb right back to its base. Whether this means cutting it back against the tree trunk or its parent limb, the technique prevents the tree’s natural healing mechanism from sealing the wound. Fu, so you mean the knowledge from the quotes from that service is not very accurate? Maybe you need to add a bit more notes to the quotes or people will think they are gold and rushed to copy Fu's quotes without referring the first message you wrote. I was a little shocked to see a Horticulturally themed article of this standard. I do read a few and think, oh dear... This guy is so on the money it isn't funny. [quote="Fu Manchu"]His knowledge only reflects the small amount of training I've had from one of this states best. So I'll post the links and then I'll post them as quotes and add a few other links. Spring is here! Hurray! Trees and the people that care for them 11Jun 10, 2011 2:30 pm ???? Not sure what you mean. The three articles contain excellent information. He is respected in arborist circles. To be an arborist is a serious amount of study on top of base studies like Horticulture. Arborists are just discovering what trees do and how they grow. It might seem pretty simple but it isn't. I have done some short courses in Aboriculture and they are exciting and have opened my eyes to some detail of how trees behave. We get so much wrong. Tree loppers and unskilled gardeners do a heap of damage to trees. They get a bad name. When a home is damaged there will be a trail of obvious and manageable signs that someone with the right training would spot straightaway years before it happens. Trees and the people that care for them 12Jun 10, 2011 2:34 pm It's three articles that are found on the H1 website by a highly trained and experienced person. Not sure about all the questions and feedback?? Re: Trees and the people that care for them 13Jun 10, 2011 9:32 pm Fu, I read from the first few lines of your first post: [quote="Fu Manchu"]I just happened to see the list of articles on the side of the forum tonight. I was a little shocked to see a Horticulturally themed article of this standard. I do read a few and think, oh dear... This guy is so on the money it isn't funny. So I think you're referring horizon tree service articles as the shocking ones, something below standard. If I have misinterpret your meaning and make it the other way round, please accept my apology . Please delete my post about that comment so as not to confuse others, if necessary. Thanks a lot. Spring is here! Hurray! Trees and the people that care for them 14Jun 11, 2011 4:20 pm Oh no! I read it as being a very high standard! I often see marketing disguised as articles in magazines, the weekend paper on websites and yes this one too. I might have to clarify what I meant. It **** me reading half the stuff you guys watch on Telly and read thinking it's good advice or info when they are paid or at least commercialy influenced ads. These guys are good. They are well respected and the thing I love more thananything else is they truly care and are passionate. That is rare. A survey must’ve completed by a certified surveyor. This form part of every DA requirement 3 223606 I haven’t. But have a Lowe Design home. Not only did I find Matt Lowe patronising and a bully, but the home is NOT TO CODE. I have water coming through the bricks… 1 14354 Hi everyone. I am a single mother with little daughter, living in a small tourist town in WA Australia. I am thinking to install security screens to all the doors and… 0 24619 |