Landscape & Garden Design
Oct 03, 2010 3:00 pm
it was laid back in July and watered regularly but it just doesnt look well. we liv ein Melbourne so not the warmest of places and bunnings keep ltelling me to leave it and it will spring into life, but the grass is yellow and crunchy! There is a bit of new green growth coming through in patches but what do i do?!?!? its a reasonably large area and cost a fair bit to turf, but not impressed with it so far
is there anything that i can do or is it dead?
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?3
Oct 03, 2010 7:12 pm
As above, we had a very cold winter, very cold spring until today, it will take a couple more weeks to green up fully. A lot of plants and trees are weeks behind in flowering and leafing out due to the cold spell.
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?7
Oct 03, 2010 8:25 pm
I need to repeat the "Are we cool" thing
We got a body.
I called Winston Wolf...
Here is the run down
Get some Seamungus for lawns.
Get some molasses. (look up the how to in this forum)
How big is the lawn we are dealing with? I need to know.
Top dress with certified organic soil. Just a light dressing.
Read the turf laying summary... Yes all of it. Don't roll your eyes!
You need to monitor soil moisture. If it is moist, then it needs no water. Too much water can lead to the very same situation.
Aerate the area.
When the leaf comes away again, get the seasol onto it.
Don't fertilise it. Just use what I have outlined.
Then get a chair...
Place it in view of the lawn area...
Sit on the chair and wait... wait for warm nights to arrive.
Don't stuff about with warm days, they are no good unless night temps are around 10 degrees and then the soil warms. Then the plants metabolism gets going and then things recover. You guys stole our winter from us this year so expect the lawn to get going around mid Oct to early November as normally happens in the SW
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?8
Oct 03, 2010 9:50 pm
I installed some sir temperamental at the start of september and it too looks very ordinary. From my experience with turf on melbourne, kikuyu has better winter color and starts growing earlier in spring than both palmetto and sir walter. I will only ever use kikuyu again.
Kikuyu the lawn you not give a crap about and it will still do well.
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?9
Oct 03, 2010 10:20 pm
I'll let the posting style of that post go.
Possibly consider rewording it. If you read my posts on lawns and how to prep the soils you just won't experience those problems.
If you buy a great lawn and plant in in poo soil, you get your self one poo lawn
Any plant is only as good as the soil is.
With good soil we can achieve some amazing results. Just amazing
Both myself and others have put a heap of effort into stopping experiences like that from happening. Follow the advice of other websites or businesses seeking financial gain and that shall be the result
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?10
Oct 03, 2010 10:20 pm
Winston Wolf is here to help
Now who is Winston Wolf?
(Not for the sensitive, squeamish, or slight of word)
Now considering the thread title and the situation I make some very general associations between the subjects.
Pulp Fiction - The Wolf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWmRTjLR ... re=related
Your lawn is the body in the car, You are Jimmy, Jules and Vincent are the other forum members helping and the people you have previously sought advice from.
Is the soil good?
What prep was done?
How big is the lawn area?
Is it Tip top?
The cleaning products, now they are the things I recommend to fix your problem
Now that I have indulged in some fictitious movie scene, I think you should see your lawn improve and provided my requests are followed, I doubt you will be in this position again
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?11
Oct 03, 2010 11:30 pm
When you say get Seamungus for lawns do you mean this stuff
http://www.neutrog.com.au/assets/Brochu ... 4-0310.pdf
or the traditional stuff
http://www.neutrog.com.au/assets/Brochu ... 0310lr.pdf
or is it a case of either or?
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?12
Oct 03, 2010 11:59 pm
The stuff in the green bucket. We use it everywhere.
The pellets look messy on the lawn area Still do a good job though.
The green bucket has the pellets pulverised and so works in deep into the soil surface in lawns and acts faster than the slower releasing pellets for gardens
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?13
Oct 04, 2010 8:48 am
Doesn't matter what warm season turf you installed in winter/early spring it will look like poo in victoria. Apart from kikuyu, but then again the owners of buffalo and EZ won't be pulling kik runners out of their pavements come summer.
I know StrathAyr turf sell cool season oversown turf rolls in winter so it looks nice if you lay it in winter then the warm season takes over in summer.
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?14
Dec 01, 2010 8:39 pm
ok. Beginning of December, and half the lawn still looks v dead - yellow straw like whilst some sections are v green and growing very well. What do I do? Is replacing those sections with new turf the only answer, or can i sow some grass seed into it or what?!?!
struggling here as I know nothing about turf and gardens etc and the blooke who laid it is now basically saying grass aint guaranteed!
Re: is my sir walter buffalo dead?17
Dec 02, 2010 6:08 am
nope - you can lift whole sections up just like when it was laid
And is this only for the sick yellow straw grass or is the green healthy grass also liftable?
My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ...
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Dec 02, 2010 8:10 am
havent tried (and at wok now) but think that the green healthy part of the grass have rooted ok. there are sections where the rolled turf that was down has a bit of green coming through it amongst the "hay" - havent tried to lift those up, and sections where the whole rolled turf but is yellow, crunchy and hay/straw-like where you can probably lift the whole section up (havent tried for a couple of weeks but it doesnt look any different)
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Dec 02, 2010 8:58 am
In the fully yellow bits grab a runner and rip it in half to see if there is any green tissue in there or if its still fleshy like it is alive. Leave it if is ok and lightly top dress with soil compost mix. If its just dry and like dead wood its stuffed. Lift up all the areas that are not rooted and dead and replace. Or you can wait for the grass to grow over the areas that are bare but it will take a while. You can also take runners from the healthy area and plant them in the bare patches which will spread and fill the area in.
Just a side note I still don't understand why people are advised to lay warm season turf in vic over winter, its going to struggle to root down and even if it does it will look like poo for months and then take the whole of spring to look presentable. (Kikuyu being the exception). Not to mention you can't use the grassed area for months while its establishing and its will have weed problems big time. Lay it in spring when its warmer and wetter and in 4 weeks you have a great lawn. If you want a lawn surface in winter, after a build, throw a cheap box of annual rye grass out and hoe it in when you prepare the ground for real turf.
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Dec 13, 2010 1:07 am
Just wait till the heat starts and noramlly you guys get that in September October. I'd be expecting proper heat around Jan Feb for you this year. I mean like 40 or so. Buffalo loves heat and combined with the right prep which you have now done, it will all fire up with heat.
If any of the products are missed out, then not very much will happen.
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