Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design 1 Sep 06, 2010 3:18 pm We are about 12 weeks from completion and neither of my side neighbours have started building... in fact, not even pegs . I am starting to stress because we can't move in without fences (we have a toddler and a dog) and know that people are reluctant to pay for and erect fences when they haven't started building yet..... Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do? I plan on asking the future neighbours if i can erect the fences (and if they could pay their share) but I know they're likely to say no... even if we rely on their temporary fencing, my dog can still quite easily crawl under the fence anyway. I was thinking of building a 'run' for the dog... but that could be costly (not to mention a teeny bit cruel, our yard is tiny to begin with). Another factor is the fact that I don't want dust and debris blowing directly onto my house when i'm living in it once they've gotten their act together and actually started building. A fence would be the ideal solution (well at least it could help with the dust/debris). I honestly just have no idea what to do and was hoping someone here was in the same position and came up with a solution. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 2Sep 06, 2010 3:21 pm I'm not sure if this applies to your area, but it was my understanding that an owner of land is obliged to pay for half of the fencing regardless of whether there is a house on there or not. I found out the details of my neighbours by going to my local council - my fencer then contacted them directly with a quote and they simply paid half to him. Of course, this might vary from area to area, state to state, but perhaps a call to your local council might be a good next step?? P. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 4Sep 06, 2010 8:28 pm yeah we had the neighbour contact us when we had a empty block and they had built was a good opportunity for a chinwag and get to know them I went outside once. The graphics were alright, but the gameplay sucked! Settlement:22nd June Slab:27th August Frame:16th Sept Bricked:21st Oct Roof:24th Nov Linings HANDOVER23rd March! Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 5Sep 06, 2010 9:04 pm Hi Bek, just thought to share.... my understanding is that you shouldn’t have to live without securing your property, regardless if your neighbours wanting to build now or later!!! I read few forums discussing similar issues, basically you need to collect 3 competitive quotes, and you can request from the council your neighbours address details to send the quotes and legally they have 28 days to respond. http://www.fencingonline.com.au/dispute ... -wales.htm Fencing notice: http://www.cjc.nsw.gov.au/4a2565b5001b2 ... enDocument Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 6Sep 06, 2010 9:09 pm I believe the owner of the land is obligated to pay 1/2 regardless if they are building or not. In our estate it sais that certificate of occupancy will not be granted till fences erected. Our new neighbours are a few months ahead of us and sent us a lovely letter and quote and we just signed and will pay half to the contractor, one less thing I have to organise and it has to be done. Building at Sierra Estate. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 7Sep 06, 2010 9:35 pm this is great information - thanks so much. looks like i'll be trying my hardest to get them to pay for half the fences asap!!! i just don't want to cause friction if they disagree.... last thing i want is bad blood between neighbours! Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 8Sep 06, 2010 10:06 pm Bek I think as long as you are reasonable the neighbours should reciprocate that back I went outside once. The graphics were alright, but the gameplay sucked! Settlement:22nd June Slab:27th August Frame:16th Sept Bricked:21st Oct Roof:24th Nov Linings HANDOVER23rd March! Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 9Sep 06, 2010 10:11 pm Like someone else said it really depends on the regs in your state. IN W.A> it used to be you didn't have to pay until your building was at plate height. ( ready for roofing) So ring your local council or check on the council website. Many of the ones in WA have the local fencing act on line for you to read. yours may also have this. Last time we built we contacted all our neighbours quite early on in our build to find out what they wanted. We negotiated to work out what they wanted but because we were early to build along with 3 of our 6 neighbours ( yes 6) we accepted that they didn't have to pay their share until they were at plate height. 3 neighbours paid straight away including one who wasn't building for 12 months. 1 neighbour was a developer and stalled until the person who was buying his property refused to pay out until our fence was paid for and the final house was a bank building low income housing . They got really nasty and refused to agree to what the other 5 neighbours wanted for fencing ( they told us they'd agree only if we got it up before their fencer did it and then instructed their fencer to leave the area he was fencing and do ours immediately) so we paid for our own fence within our boundary . ( it was 5m's worth) The final neighbour built a retaining wall to suit them ( they happily built it on their property rather than remove the fence) that we would have been responsible for to pretty much the same value. . we had to pick up the fencing bill until then. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 10Sep 07, 2010 4:45 pm Thanks everyone. I rang council and basically i was told if the neighbours don't agree to pay for half the fences it's a civil issue and we will have to go to the appropriate tribunal. Not something I want to do as I don't believe in getting offside with neighbours and would like to avoid it at all costs..... I have their addresses and will ask my solicitor to prepare letters soon and will cross my fingers that they will agree to allow me to secure my property! Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 12Sep 08, 2010 6:39 pm I recently contacted the local council where we are building and obtained the names and addresses for the six properties that border our property. Obtained fencing quotes and sent them along to the owners, which included two actual builders that purchased three of the properties, and that was over six weeks ago and no one has bothered to ring or email. I only have addresses of the owners to follow up on. One neighbour cant afford fences, so I'm not sure where that leaves us, as we are moving in on Monday Dear J.K. Rowling, Your books are entirely unrealistic. I mean, a ginger kid with two friends? Sincerely, Anonymous Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 13Sep 08, 2010 6:54 pm Bek, a solicitor's letter may be overkill and a little unfriendly. I'd suggest trying to have a chat or write a friendly note first. They may be happy to do the right thing. The council's only suggesting civil action if they refuse to negotiate, I think. Most new estates in WA now have the type and colour of fencing specified. Good idea as we just erected ours without discussion and will now be asking for half the cost back as our neighbours have moved in. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 14Sep 08, 2010 7:55 pm We have a block of land and have houses built on all 3 sides. We were contacted by them recently in order to build fences. One rang, one wrote a letter with a few quotes enclosed and the third just put up the fence and hasn't bothered contacting us for our share (even though we have met them and spoken to them a number of times). We don't have a problem about paying our share and we weren't bothered by the ways we were contacted. Its in our interest to have a fence too so I can't see why your neighbours would have a problem unless they are unreasonable. You should feel bad about asking them to share the cost as its for their benefit too. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 15Sep 08, 2010 10:38 pm Kayles, the reason I worry is because they haven't started building yet.... so the likelihood of the fence getting damaged while they build is high - so some people refuse to pay for that reason, they want to wait until at least the external part of their property is built before they fork out money for the fence. I cannot wait that long.... we're almost at lock up and are expected to have keys in 8 or 9 weeks, they haven't even got pegs!!! So it's unlikely they will even start in the next 2 or 3 months. I need fences... for security reasons, and the fact i have a dog and a child. It's just not an option for us not to have fences... so if they don't pay, we will have to fork it all out ourselves! Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 16Sep 09, 2010 7:38 pm We are about to build and it doesn't worry me that all our fences will be up. I take the view that its in my builders best interest to take all due care to not damage the fence during the build as they will be the ones to fix any problems especially if its having an impact on my future neighbours. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 17Sep 09, 2010 8:55 pm I think your probably anticipating problems that might not even arise. Most people are reasonable. We are still building but our neighbour is moving in soon and I was really pleased to receive a nice letter from her about the fencing with quotes, its got to be done and Im looking forward to having them as neighbours now as they seemed really friendly and efficient. I think if you go in with a solicitors letter anticipating a nasty response then thats probably what you will get. Building at Sierra Estate. Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 18Sep 09, 2010 9:23 pm I just wanted to add my 2 sense. I think a letter from your solicitor is probably step 2 if they dont answer a personal letter or phone call from yourselves. I think you need to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them a chance - if i had received a letter from my new neighbours solicitors I would feel like i wasnt approachable (in which i am approachable- and only 2 happy to pay my way through life) it only takes a few days to put up a fence so your have plenty of time, If it does get to out of hand(timewise), just install the fence and keep the receipt(of course) and when/if it does require legal assistance you have it in writing. hth Our Acreage Build The Lakeview Lodge - Beechwood Homes 01/04/10 YES 2010 - Deposit paid 23/09 - PCI CANCELLED 28/09 - PCI - will it happen.-18 months later 07/10/11 - ITS OURS..WOOHOO Re: Fences when you have no neighbours... 19Sep 09, 2010 9:41 pm Thanks for your advice everyone. I will definitely write the (friendly) letter myself, along with 3 quotes, and fingers crossed they will agree to it. I know it sounds like i'm anticipating problems that won't arise, but I only say this because my own site supervisor told me he advises his clients NOT to put their fences up before the house is built (if this can be done)... and pretty much told me to anticipate not having any fences for a while! So it made me panic. Hi all, Our boundary perimeter fences need replacing (3 sides). From everyone's experience, what would you install? Timber lapped and capped OR colorbond? Thank you. 0 2879 it depends on the natural ground level, if they excavated their boundary wall needed to be built as a retaining wall. If you filled, which sounds like the case then you… 1 7084 The only thing to add to these comments is that where possible it's always good to try and work with people than just say "no" because you can. Having someone… 4 17148 |