Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design 1 Jan 18, 2010 4:28 pm I am looking for suggestions for creeper to plant in the bays between pillars of my front wall. I live in Gero WA and about 200m from the beach, so cop a lot of wind. The slat fence will provide some wind protection but the location is also full sun. There are 5 bays, am not sure if I should go for one type of palnt or mix the bays up. I was thinking native wisteria but dont know if it will suit. I plan to fill up other garden beds with dense plantings of foliage, and a vege patch as well. There are three olive trees setback from the bays atm, they will stay Photos attached of the location. The timber slat fence will need re-oiling at some stage too, so should I put up a trellis in front for the creeper to keep it of the fence as the panels can be unbolted for re-oiling, or is that being silly. Any advice appreciated. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Climber for front fence 2Jan 18, 2010 4:36 pm I'm over the east coast so not sure if this is suitable - but I find star jasmine good. Life's too short too drink bad wine Re: Climber for front fence 3Jan 18, 2010 8:45 pm The poor old star Jassie won't stand a chance The trees along this stretch of coastline from North of Perth to up past Gero commonly have foliage on one side. in some cases the trees grow along the ground in open areas. The native wisteria is a good selection but have a look at the Kennedia. You'll be able to order that from one of the two nurseries in Gero. It's available from wholesale nurseries that deliver up your way Kennedia beckxiana (has pink flowers) Kennedia nigrricans (the one available now easy as- black and yellow flower) "The coral pea" fits in with the coral coast if you use the native wisteria, use the WA one, not the eastern states one ours is Hardenbergia comptoniana. The happy wanderer is the eastern one I can't think of many others that will be reliable in your area in that situation. Re: Climber for front fence 4Jan 19, 2010 12:01 am Thanks for the reply. Got out my big book of plants and was going to ask about one I liked the look of - Hardenbergia comptoniana !! Considering I have 5 bays, do you think a variety or stick to one or two species ? The Kennedia are supposedly "short lived". What does that mean, am hoping not to have to change the gardens beds often. I am hopeless at visualising gardens and what would look good, have no probs with civil construction etc though - I think one half of my brain is missing. Dont have to have a climber actually, am thinking a small attractive shrub poking through may be quite effective, without colonising my fence. Need creativity, have none. Re: Climber for front fence 5Jan 20, 2010 1:20 am much better idea A shrub will be far better. Just one type right along. Look at using Alyogne west coast gem from near by Gero. It will handle things well. If you ever find them, the Yanchep rose will be bullet proof up your way and is one of the most under rated plants going. Far better than most choices and good flower show. Eremophila nivea from out that way will also be a good choice. Feijoa, or pineapple guava will be tough as and productive. Used as a wind break out near Lancelin. The Westringeas are going to a great job and another near indestructible choice is Grevillea olivacea which is from out that way as well Re: Climber for front fence 6Jan 20, 2010 10:28 am Much appreciated, Fu. I have prepared the garden beds using a soil mix which is rich in manure (horse, cattle, pig & chicken) and which they recommended as not suitable for natives (Amazon soils in Gero are long gone....), mixed in well with my sandy soil. I also mixed in some zeolite and sulphur to correct the ph. Mulched with natural mulch. How long do I need to let this settle if I want to plant natives into it ? cheers Re: Climber for front fence 7Jan 20, 2010 11:09 am I'd me leaving it months and that is why I hate using these sorts of soils. But what can you do? That is all you can get So much junk soils out there and so many people with problems in the garden. The Piggy poo is some serious gold for the garden though OMG! That is one thing you could use... hang on... Re: Climber for front fence 8Jan 20, 2010 11:12 am Doh! *face palms self* and they are just down the road from you too!!!! I forgot all about these guys! http://www.dsatco.com/ http://www.dsatco.com/PiggypostBulkBag/ ... roductName Geraldton Garden Mart, 307 Place Rd, Geraldton 99217870 Re: Climber for front fence 9Jan 20, 2010 11:45 am A couple of months - that is dissapointing. I was trying to do the right thing by adding organic matter (manures) to the soil, but you say that soil is no good, sorry I dont really understand. Is the problem with the natives too much nitrogen from the chicken manure ? Does the waiting mean the nitrogen leeches out of the soil ? Can I do anything to speed up the process ? The products from dsatco - are they all good ones ? As I cannot access organic soils would their soil maximiser be a suitable lawn top dressing to impove soil structure or could I just use the piggy post ? And also use the piggy post in garden beds ? And the lupin mulch on top or just natural (tree) mulch ? BTW, Geraldton Garden Mart - they too have dissapeared, only big industrial style soil suppliers here now. I can get the dsatco products in Dongara but not Gero, but I go past Dongara every week for work. Sorry about all the questions... I suppose the main one is where to now from here, considering what I have done so far. I will follow your recommendations though as I want to get this right, as well as understand the process. Cheers Re: Climber for front fence 10Jan 20, 2010 12:08 pm some excellent questions Bloody hell, is there anywhere left there Dongra, the nice cousin of Geraldton The piggy post isn't certified organic but it is bloody good stuff. You can use it with confidence All the products they do is of a very respectable standard and is miles ahead of others. Yes the other poos and mostly chook poo in the soils commonly sold by soil mobs (other than the above one) contain high levels of nitrogen (which natives in the Mimosacea family won't like) and phosphates (which natives in the Proteacea family won't like.) As for your mulch, yes the lupin mulch is amazingly good for the soil. However it is also very alkaline and will also be a poor mulch in windy places as it wicks water out of the soil very well. However layer it under green mulches and you will kick start your gardens soil health in ways you didn't think possible Once a year, these mulches applied to your garden in combination will do some great things To sort what you have, leach out the nitrogen and phosphates with lots of water. time and water is all you can do. Or plant and see what happens but it might not be very cool Re: Climber for front fence 11Feb 05, 2010 12:36 pm Quicky question for Fu, am now keen on espalier lime and lemon trees in a couple of these bays, as well as your other recommendations. There are 5 bays in all, was thinking the native lilac creeper in one, espalier lime and lemon in another two and a shrub from your other recommendation in the other two. Like the idea of productive and non productive mix. The lemon/lime trees would have the fence and then a bamboo trellis (to espalier on) for wind protection, so would not cop the full southerly. All bays are south facing ie full sun. Am I kidding myself with the lemon lime trees idea ? Any chance they would survive? Am also planning a vege garden in a similar position, (can erect windbreak), or are the conditions too harsh ? Re: Climber for front fence 12Feb 05, 2010 2:29 pm Well the mix of productive and non productive may not actually be so different. The set up you suggest means the areas considered non productive are habitat creating areas. Those areas mean insects and birds and of course bees will be around the veggies and fruit resulting in a far healthier set up As for will it be suitable? Well why not have a go. You would be setting out to do this in a very hostile fruit and veggie growing situation but by having good soils (For you via DSATCO) and boost the soil microbes. Good mulches. I look forward to see what happens. I think you'll get a win. It may actually go a bit wobbly for the first year but with persistence and a continued look at feeding the soil microbes, they will balance out and the results then improve and stabilise Old Home Restoration / Renovation Try your local council. They should be able to advise in regards ownership of next door dwellling and give advice as to what steps you have to take before doing any work 1 9796 I recently finished my house and after landscaping, have begun to plan a fence. 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