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Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: Helthy Soil advise required 44Mar 04, 2010 7:18 am Unreal. Finally I find Zeolite in Melbourne (Bulleen) which is an amount not the size of a tin can. 15kg for $22.00. I'm off this weekend to get some!! Now if I could only find spongolite. Any ideas? Re: Helthy Soil advise required 45Mar 04, 2010 8:06 am Hey moody would you mind passing me the details where you got it from please? Re: Helthy Soil advise required 47Mar 04, 2010 10:54 pm Folks have a squiz of this info http://www.greatgardens.info/docs/GG005.html Re: Helthy Soil advise required 48Mar 08, 2010 10:02 am Spongolite & Zeolite seems to be available to order online from http://www.rapidspillcontrol.com.au/ Check out the 2nd and bottom item on this page http://www.rapidspillcontrol.com.au/sto ... nt%20Loose here's a MSDS for the spongolite http://rapidspillcontrol.com/pdf/MSDS%20spongolite.pdf are these the items we are looking for and how much would you recommend I get to prepare for a 15sqm lawn?? So if I get some bags of Organic soil activator from the naked gardener, and the spongolite & zeolite and dig in would that be ok to plant my turf on (whenever I decide what typ I'm getting Nara/Sir Walter??? what to do???) Re: Helthy Soil advise required 49Mar 08, 2010 10:37 pm Have a go at something new and try the narra, I'd love to hear how it goes. I use and recommend Empire Zoysia. 15m2 would be between 5 and 10 bags dug through to about 200mm to 400mm with zeolite and spongolite (bag of each will be fine) Then feed with seasol, powerfeed and molasses. Re: Helthy Soil advise required 50Mar 09, 2010 6:11 pm Fu Manchu Have a go at something new and try the narra, I'd love to hear how it goes. I use and recommend Empire Zoysia. 15m2 would be between 5 and 10 bags dug through to about 200mm to 400mm with zeolite and spongolite (bag of each will be fine) Then feed with seasol, powerfeed and molasses. So can I get the seasol and powerfeed at the big green shed or another similar place?? and do I put it in before or after I lay the turf?? Does anyone know a good place to get molasses around Melbourne?? Also at the moment there's a bunch of different random plants that took over after I rotary hoed the previous lawn a few months ago. What's the best ways to get rid of them before I start?? Re: Helthy Soil advise required 51Mar 10, 2010 8:02 pm Stock feeders will sell molasses. Some places can't sell it as it's classified a food product. Retail trading laws and all Re: Helthy Soil advise required 52Mar 10, 2010 8:07 pm Leave the randoms. They will rot into the soil when you cover them with mulch and turf. Great organic material. This happens because there would have been loads of dormant seeds in the soil (which is totally normal) and when soils are turned the outer covering of the seed is scratched. Then moisture gets in and that triggers the seed to germinate. Often people will say it was in the soil they bought or in the mulch they bought but in actual fact it was there to start with. Re: Helthy Soil advise required 53Mar 11, 2010 8:13 am First, thanks for all the help so far have ordered the Spongolite & Zeolite. Fu Manchu Leave the randoms. They will rot into the soil when you cover them with mulch and turf. Great organic material. Sounds good, but just worried they will pop through the lawn eventually. Had to go through it with the whipper snipper the other week as there was an impenetrable jungle about knee high of different plants (maybe should have explained a bit better) Don't want to do all the work and then end up with a lawn with heaps of "weeds" in it Was planning to spray it to kill it off but since I'm now trying to prepare my soil as best as possible, wondering what spray to use to make sure it doesn't kill all the good stuff in the soil as well... Re: Helthy Soil advise required 54Mar 11, 2010 10:24 am Fu Manchu I'll look into it for you Any further news on the Naked Farmer Soil Activator people Fu?? They seem to be the only certified organic soil people down here in the south east of Melbourne and I was really relying on them being able to do bulk deliveries. Their lack of response so far has been very disappointing. Sure I can get the small bags but I'd hate to think how many I would need... The only bulk organic soil delivery places I can find are NOT certified and located in the northern suburbs. Surely other people here from the east/south east have been able to get certified organic soil? If you've been this fortunate, could you PLEASE share the details? This is driving me nuts! Thank you! Fence, paving, retaining wall - CHECK! Still so much more to do..... Re: Helthy Soil advise required 56Mar 11, 2010 1:43 pm Thanks Nott. I am aware people have been buying Organic Compost and Zeolite from Bulleen Art and Garden supplies. If only it wasn't so far away! Fu - is the organic compost a suitable alternative to the organic soil activator I've already used in my sandy garden beds and am now needing for my larger garden/lawn areas? Fence, paving, retaining wall - CHECK! Still so much more to do..... Re: Helthy Soil advise required 57Mar 11, 2010 8:20 pm Yeah look an organic compost will have to do Sorry I forgot all about following up the bulk supplies in Melbourne Re: Helthy Soil advise required 58Mar 12, 2010 1:22 pm I finally managed to speak to a person at Debco regarding the Naked Farmer Organic Soil Activator. According to the man I spoke to, it is NOT available in bulk to the public. He said that people with an ABN may be able to organise a bulk supply. I pointed out that it would be a wise business move to make it available to the public because now we'll just go and spend all of our money elsewhere! So it looks like it'll have to be the organic compost for me from Bulleen....unless someone else can identify other bulk certified organic soil suppliers in Melbourne. I'm beginning to think I should start another topic about this to get more responses. Fu - if you have time in the future, it'd be great if you could compile a Sticky thread containing Australia wide links to businesses who provide certified organic soil etc. That way, people will have the information they need at their fingertips which may help to save precious time. It's just a thought! Fence, paving, retaining wall - CHECK! Still so much more to do..... Re: Helthy Soil advise required 59Mar 12, 2010 2:12 pm It's a nice thought although my time too is extremely precious and I only know of the WA suppliers from who I use. I guess we are getting a few as time goes on. I'm getting reluctant to do more stickies because we could end up with too many. There are many topics I'd love to have as stickies already. We know BAAG in Melbourne is onto it. I have also tried to search the BFA and NAASA websites for certified suppliers in Australia, which has got me nowhere to this point I am sorry for the Naked Farmer result. I was informed by them that it was available. Just not that you had to have an ABN Sorry guys Re: Helthy Soil advise required 60Mar 15, 2010 9:06 am I have finally been able to decide and plant stuff on my front yard, have gone with yucca, acacia limelight and some purple fountain grass. all hardy & drought resistant becuse we have clay soil in melbourne west , mixed in lots of N/F- soil activator, molasses, seasol in the soil a week before planting have spread thick layer of sugar mulch all around , and have been giving the plants a dose of seasol once a week , plus water every evening. since the plants are young, yucca, fountain grass and the limelight are all around 1 ft in height, I should probably keep this up for 4 weeks in total , than go to watering once a week. is this correct ? the next step is to set up a worm farm, thank you all for your suggestions and invaluable advise, specially the FU man, I am looking for someone who might have tackled a similar issue as me. 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