Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 21Oct 21, 2009 5:57 pm Moody top work on using a dingo to get things done. Mainly because they can be good fun to use for a while The buffalos wont do much till things start heating up, then they will come up really nice and you will have forgotten the worry. Not long to go. For the Zoysia, well the saying, "watching grass grow" is even more extreme. It is slower than a wombat with 3 legs and a tummy ache. Right now, anything going on is happening underneath, growing roots. The top would be having a rough trot with all the extra water. Again once things warm up it will come away well but don't expect to be mowing it any time soon. (which is what it is all about, less work) For both turfs, by next winter they will be looking much better and after the second winter, my money is on the Zoysia looking best of the two. (Grasshopper will say the Buffalo ) Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 22Oct 21, 2009 7:03 pm Fu Manchu Moody top work on using a dingo to get things done. Mainly because they can be good fun to use for a while Are they easy to use? I plan to hire one when when I finally get organised to do the soil/sand in the backyard to delivery it all around and then get the rotary hoe attachment... I would prefer to do it/use it myself but I figure if I can't do it then I can get my BIL who is an excavator driver to do it but I really want to, it would be FUN! 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 23Oct 21, 2009 8:35 pm Everthing changes once your soil temperature gets over 15 degrees. That wont happen till you get warm nights. Don't expect miracle changes quickly with warm season grasses after applying fertiliser or top dressing when the nights are still cold, no matter how hot the days are. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 24Oct 21, 2009 9:19 pm I have only ever heard that from a few excellent sources grasshopper. Great to yet again have a good faith in your knowledge. Most nursery growers/ Horts who really know their stuff will know they can grow warmer season crops once the night temps regularly stay over 10 deg c. The days as you say can be warm and even hot, but if the night is cold then the soil cools off. Basil is a great example and so too tomatoes. As the nights warm and the soil starts to slowly warm we will all see the changes in the garden. Plants start to really green up without the use of fertilisers. The sap gets flowing and their metabolisms speed up I know a very prominent citrus orchidist here in WA and he has to go to extraordinary lengths to keep his citrus trees green in the cold. As soon as it warms they go green as buggery. However people still pour fertiliser on them to attempt to green them up and wonder why they just don't respond well. They all call radio garden shows and say, my citrus tree is yellow and sad looking. They try all the wives tales of magnesium sulphate and iron sulphate etc when all it is is cold soil and a sleepy plant agghh warm nights warm nights and a cold beer is hard to beat. your lawns and garden will love them too, just be patient Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 26Oct 22, 2009 10:38 am lisanne Fu Manchu Moody top work on using a dingo to get things done. Mainly because they can be good fun to use for a while Are they easy to use? I plan to hire one when when I finally get organised to do the soil/sand in the backyard to delivery it all around and then get the rotary hoe attachment... I would prefer to do it/use it myself but I figure if I can't do it then I can get my BIL who is an excavator driver to do it but I really want to, it would be FUN! Yeah, there easy to use. But could be dangerous if you are not careful. Just take it slow and don't fly around. The hire place should show you how to use it but if you have an excavator driver available use him/her. You can be the foreman. My wife was.....as usual!! But you're right have a go yourself. It's fun Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 27Oct 22, 2009 10:55 am moody Yeah, there easy to use. But could be dangerous if you are not careful. Just take it slow and don't fly around. The hire place should show you how to use it but if you have an excavator driver available use him/her. You can be the foreman. My wife was.....as usual!! But you're right have a go yourself. It's fun Excellent, thanks! I'd prefer to do as much myself as possible, purely from the self satisfaction stand point I'm starting to think that maybe I should do all this before I get my fence done? (at least the mixing in of the new soil and sand so I don't damage the fence) 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 28Nov 17, 2009 10:54 am My zoysia is finally turning green. Noticed that there are new grass growing out amongst the brown. It's been almost 3 months now since it's laid.. the edges are still brown but least new shoots are coming out. Love the grass..having said that, when do I need to start mowing the grass? Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 29Nov 18, 2009 6:39 pm It's going to be a while and your poor old Zoysia has had a rough trot with conditions Good weather then a turn back to cold soil temps and now finally some warmth to get it going and settle in. This stuff is good and strong once established and till then, just apply seasol, powerfeed, maybe some blood and bone and some molasses. (feeding the soil, not the plant) You will need to give it a mow when it gets a bit long Please refrain from cutting this turf low. You want long soft blades. Most mowing contractors have mowers et to 10mm which is too low for both buffalo and zoysia unless being mowed to perfection on an almost daily basis. Preferably keep it at between 20 and 40mm for both types and it will look magic Your contractor can use a section of 90mm storm water pipe with a slot cut in it that can fit onto the mower and easily raise the cutting height without complex adjustments Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 30Nov 19, 2009 11:02 am Thanks Fu! At the moment doesn't look like it needs any mowing As of 2 weeks ago, I think some parts of it are still not rooting into the grounds but after we treated it with seasol, they seem to have started. Thank goodness! Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 31Nov 19, 2009 12:42 pm That is due to Seasol being an excellent root growth stimulant. Better than pretty much anything at it too Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 32Nov 19, 2009 2:38 pm I have been following this post as my EZ turf is the same. It is v-e-r-y slow growing and the gardener who helped us lay was amazed it hasnt needed mowing so far. he is used to the buffalos and couches. surprisingy the turf which gets part shade has shown about 2-3 cm growth. the area in full sun esp the ones which were dry to start with have been very slow to recover and still 50% brown. I am also noticing flower/seed heads. Is this due to less nitrogen more phosphate? Fu any recommendations? Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 33Nov 19, 2009 3:01 pm The Empire Zoysia will seed due to stress but also over your way it maybe the time it seeds due to some of your confusing weather (from the lawns perspective). Over here it will seed early spring/late winter, couches tend to seed different times as do the Buffalos. The shaded areas will have been protected from cold over the last few months more than the exposed areas. You will find with the heat, it will be much the same till it settles in. Let it seed and take it's natural course. If you don't like the look of them, mow them off. It will come back into seed again though. It will last a few weeks. Lots of seasol and the other goodies I mention from time to time and it will come away fine with some normal warm weather. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 34Nov 19, 2009 3:13 pm Hi, My empire is pretty much green and getting greener by the day, i laid it 8 days ago. It has small seed heads here and there but thats how it came from NSW. I only have a small patch so it gets plenty of TLC. It has sent down roots and is quite hard to pull up any corners. Mind you i have had only one day under 30 degrees and all the nights above 15 degrees, in full sun, plenty of water and 2 doses of seasol. I also laid other rolls in different parts of the yard. The best preforming patch is in full shade to dabbled shade funnily enough. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 35Nov 19, 2009 3:31 pm Yeah it's protected from the extremes of cold and heat. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 36Nov 19, 2009 9:26 pm Yeah the poor stuff got smashed when I laid it in 38 degree heat, but I checked today after 35 degrees and the full sun part is looking great. Guy up the road laid kik a week earlier than me and it needs a mow. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 37Nov 26, 2009 9:13 am what you need to do is have a huge trampoline to cover your entire yard. i have a 14ft trampoline and recently moved it to another spot and the grass under it was about an inch longer than the rest and a really nice green in relation to the near dead grass at the rest of the yard Blog - http://snakedr.blogspot.com/ Build Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12084&p=307406#p307406 Status - PCI 15/10. Things nearly done. Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 39Nov 27, 2009 5:15 pm Stopped stressing about Zoyzia. Stop watering it...please. You will only kill it. Zoyzia ia very heat tolerant warm season grass that probably doesnt need water from about April to about September. It goes brown in cooler regions during the cooler months (winter dormancy) like couch grasses. Its also not a big fan of shade either. Ill give you a link to look at for better understanding. BTW im in Canberra. http://www.empireturf.com.au/empire-tur ... stics.html Re: Turf turning brown..Help~ 40Dec 02, 2009 10:34 pm Yeah Fu, my money is still on the better buffalos. Especially when you through shade into the equation down the track. Just remember the internet hasn't climatic boundaries, what works for Bill in Hobart mighn't work for Bob in Cairns. Cheers They using concrete or timber sleepers? Timber or steel uprights? Any drainage behind sleeper? 3 5802 Hi there, long-time lurker but first time posting. I've bought a house 2 and a bit years ago and last year we had some major water damage on a converted pergola area… 0 7897 Yes, unless you are in a low intensity rainfall area or the area is protected from rain. Do you have access to NCC Part 2 or can you download it? 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