Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 6Oct 13, 2009 8:47 pm Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 7Oct 14, 2009 10:25 am Thanks for the responses and I have bookmarked Fu's very helpfull link. Ah, Cabinfever you are so right but fortunately what I am thinking of is the verge. I would hate to plant a whole lot of native groundcovers and later have couch growing through them . Maggie Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 8Oct 14, 2009 7:51 pm grasshopper A product called- Fusilade, kills couch better than roundup but won't hurt trees. Used widely by fruit growers. only available at Agric outlets I think. grasshopper is right on the money there with fusilade We used to use it at the golfcourse. However, be aware it is horribly expensive for the average gardener. It is also extremely toxic. So much so that the manufacturers of it and the authorities do not want small quantities sold where they end up in peoples back sheds. That is why the smallest quantity sold is a one litre container. That is enough to cover a hectare! and that's why it is generally not sold in garden centres. It is the opposite to what most commonly call weed and feed type herbicides. It's selective as to what sort of plant it is. There are two major groups in the world. Monocots and dicots. Sprays like bin-die or weed and feeds with "dicamba" in them effect dicots (broad leaves with veins in them like a road map ) Then you have Fusilade, it effects monocots only. (grasses, palms, aggies, cycads, etc. Plants with parallel veins in the leaf.) This stuff is often recommended by horticultural columnists for news papers and magazines. It costs around the $150 mark per litre. Don't spray on a windy day, wear a respirator, long sleeves, gloves, eye protection, long pants and covered shoes. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Grass gone! done. Over. If you ever do get rid of your turf though, I don't suggest having a bobcat remove it once dead, it will make for good organic material for the soil. Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 9Oct 14, 2009 8:49 pm fu that sounds like what the guy who cleared our small verge front garden bed used. I remember it was a name like that. same rules and it was horribly expensive. It did a brilliant job though only I don't rememebr any pink colour. He actually came back and did a 2nd spray. Blog http://wherethehearthis.blogspot.com/ Build https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=6634: Yard https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27687&p=378401#p378401 Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 10Oct 14, 2009 9:01 pm yeah but as cabin said, for veggies? I wouldn't be doing it or at least be eating them. With Glypho? well that in theory is a much better option. 10 days and it has broken down in the soil. Using round up this time of year to kill a lawn, well it might not work too well in the long term. This is the stuff that grasshopper is talking about... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ or if you are doing a very small batch at home I guess some food dye will do a make shift job for you to see where you have sprayed. Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 11Oct 14, 2009 9:12 pm hmm yup def doesn't sound like something you'd want near veggies. can't be what the guy used who lives near mum then as he has planted fruit trees etc in the straw and didn't dig out the dead lawn. BUt I'd pick it as what our guy used at our place 22 months ago. Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 12Oct 14, 2009 9:28 pm It won't affect the fruit trees but it more what chemical residue ends up in the veggies and fruit that is the issue with using fusilade in area. This stuff is magic for solving grass weed problems in larger areas. I'd hate to have weeded the areas we used to do any other way It can be a real godsend for the right application. Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 13Oct 14, 2009 9:33 pm here is the chart indicating withholding periods for use with veggies. http://www.nrrbs.com.au/chemicalsfusiladespecs2.htm and the material safety data sheet shows more info on fusilade http://dkt.net.au/msdsfiles/fusilade%20wg.pdf Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 14Oct 15, 2009 1:07 am Fu Manchu I'd hate to have weeded the areas we used to do any other way True! And waiting like a ninja and then blasting the hell out of it is so much more fun! My tac-home-ter: Been in 8 months! Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 15Oct 16, 2009 10:15 pm Glypho when mixed with muddy (dam) water, won't work, when it hits the soil it won't work. The cost of label registration is the reason fusilade is only available in commercial quantities. Dicamba, MCPA, DSMA etc are available in diluted forms because there is a retail market that is worth the expense of 'label' registration. Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 16Oct 17, 2009 8:28 am Sorry me again Quote: Using round up this time of year to kill a lawn, well it might not work too well in the long term. I thought that I understood that when couch brakes dormancy it is the best time to do it I was thinking of spraying it with glyphosphate however many times it takes, Fusilade is not an option, the patch is just 4m/7m with a tree in the middle. When it is dead I thought I would cover the lot with newsprint and again cover it with green mulch and wait for autumn to do the recommended planting of grevillieas, chorisemas or whatever I choose. Is this approach OK or am I missing something. Maggie Re: How to get rid of lawn effortlessly 17Oct 17, 2009 11:22 pm Grasshopper, I'm loving your knowledge I spoke with the manufacturer years ago about why it wasn't available in smaller quantities for retail sale. The answer I was given was much different to that, but it did match what I was taught in chemical handling about it so I never questioned it. "we don't want chemicals like that in peoples back sheds" is from memory what I was told. should have been, "we don't want to pay label rego so chemicals like that are in peoples sheds" the leaves that are now underground go yellow, the tips that poke through photosynthesise and have chlorophyll, same reason they grow rhubarb in the dark. 5 4864 Depends how much direct sun it gets. Is there any shading (eaves or trees)? If the sun hits a window directly it doesn't matter too much if it's double or single… 1 12665 9 24791 |