Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 33Oct 13, 2009 2:46 pm Hi BK I have the same thoughts re buffalo kiks and couches. I am happy with my decision of E-Z laid last Friday. It is still recovering from the transplantation shock. I really love the texture. narrow blade width and soft feel underfoot. we managed to do it ourselves with few helpers and cost us 1.5 K all up for 125 sqm. I think this is good value compared to landscapers quoting 3.5 K for cheaper varieties. good luck Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 34Oct 13, 2009 3:11 pm Hi vp, Thanks for the input. How green is your empire now btw and has it started to root down? It only came out of dormancy recently according to HG when i spoke to them a month ago so it would be interesting to hear. Been a very cold few weeks in melb. Cheers, BK Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 35Oct 14, 2009 11:16 am Hi BK The rolls were a bit dry in one palett but the others were green and moist. After laying it looked quite brown in many areas with curled leaves. some borders went brown too. Rang HG turf to check whether it was effect of beetle treatment. they mentioned about transplanting shock. the last 2 days of rain and cold has actually made the turf appearing greenest since laying (day 5) and also the curled leaves have now opened up and appear normal. so far so good! Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 36Oct 14, 2009 12:59 pm Good to hear vp. I think i might lay down just a bit to see how it goes, if it takes well over summer then i will do the rest. Plus i have only 2000L of water atm. Sounds promising if its nice and green already. Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 37Oct 14, 2009 8:34 pm grasshopper Fu, Hope your 2 roll Zoysia trial goes well. I've heard from friends that there has been very good rain in WA over the last 2 months, so they'll survive a bit longer now. How much root extension have you got on the Empire? Hope to hear how the shady one goes through next winter, or are we talking 'summer shade' not 'winter shade'? cheers, We have had below average rainfall but a lot of rain days. It didn't start as a proper trial. I just chucked them there after a job. Then they just kept growing and got better and then a little worse and then recovered so I got a photo. Now I think after this week they'll finally be knackered. I have a fair bit to do with turf and I'd never see that from rolls of couch or buffalo. (maybe not as much as grasshopper) Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 38Oct 14, 2009 11:24 pm Fu, no worries, besides laying turf , i've been growing it for 25yrs, for me it's all observation (like you). what works works, what doesn't doesn't, but as we both know there are so many variables that the average punter doesn't realise the subtle differences in varieties or causes of problems through soil, climate, weather etc. Sometimes the turf farms rely on-'the best grass is the one that he has the most stock of', that only works in the short term. Sometimes they flog off a variety that they got a licence to grow (typically USA varieties, in NSW or HG changing from Sapphire to Kings Pride), planted heaps but found they don't perform, so it takes years to sell then replant. I'm becoming increasingly worried how 'internet solutions' that appear on blogs and then become gospel, because they are written. The same thing happened with magazines that were published in a region but distributed nationally. eg articules on seeding lawns (written in Vic) that NSW & Qld people thought would work for them............wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! The best thing for the turf/lawn industry is/was the drought from hell, warm season grasses are being recognised as a solution to a sustainable environment for our kids everywhere. Our enemy is pavers, not other grass varieties, the perfect grass hasn't been found/developed yet. I'm a bit biased, because at the moment soft leaf buffalos perform in most places, they can survive everywhere in Australia. SW is the only turf variety that is available everywhere in Oz, from Darwin to Hobart. Every variety has its shortcomings (including SW), and I think (nationally) zoysia (whether Empire, ZT11 or empress, more to come see IP australia PBR web site) has more problems than the buffalos. I'm fortunate to travel every year , at least once, to around 50 turf farms from Darwin, Perth, Adelaide, melbourne, Hobart, Sydney, Brisbane and Cairns etc (OK i'm a sick individual). When I travel I go to any new subdivisions in the area and look at what is performing in a home lawn situation, noting the weather and listening to the local growers for seasonal irregularities. My money is on Buffalo at the moment, from my experience zoysia isn't the 'shade tolerant' grass it's supposed to be and takes too long to establish. These days, house blocks are getting smaller, homes bigger, more shade and traffic on the available lawn area available. Makes sence? cheers, Grasshopper Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 39Oct 14, 2009 11:45 pm your points about growers flogging what is cheap to produce at the expense of what is best to sell or was it what they have loads of is right on the money. No doubt you will have searched many of my posts and you would see that that is a point i bring up on not just turf varieties but plants too. The public won't be aware of deals or advertising dollars paid to garden shows to promote certain plants or create a public interest in a certain plant so garden centres start ordering or buying. I am an avid weather buff and year after year i now watch summer storms approach our metro area from the North in summer watch them just vaporise as they reach the metro area. The radar shows it really well. The force field we call it, but as you would know heat soak is a major cause of microclimate change for our cities and paving and Mc mansions contribute to that. All this synthetic turf and paving holds so much heat that it is stopping valuable summer rainfall in metro areas, of course some more than others. As for travelling around to different growers, well I do the same for landscapes and nurseries when ever I go anywhere parks and gardens, garden centres wholesale nurseries etc The scope for learning is much greater I guess by doing that. Re: Appropriate turf for Melbourne 40Nov 05, 2009 7:53 am Righto, I have finally got some empire on order to lay next wenesday now i have some time. I have decided to go with a small patch and see how it goes through summer to summer and then look at doing the rest next year. Plus i don't have enough tanks to do much more. Looking foward to the fun soil prep. Funnily when i was speaking to the turf guy he had never sold any zoysia, and his recommendation for Melb was kikuyu, buffalo/couch browned off/too slow out of dormancy in melb suburbs. Pretty much exactly what i see in the houses near me. He is getting a few rolls in with my order to check out how they go as well. Will update in a week. 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