Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design 1 Jun 18, 2009 12:13 pm We have a row of Magnolia Little Gems growing just behind one of those Victorian Style ripple iron fences. We've had a lot of trouble with the reflective heat from the fence scorching the leaves on the trees. I was thinking that I could plant a creeper to shield some of the heat, it could help. I was thinking something along the lines of Boston Ivy or Virginia Creeper - just wondering if these could stand the heat from the tin fence? The fence is in the front yard so the Little Gems are on the inside. The fence faces due east so gets full sun right through until mid-late afternoon. If these creepers are no good, any other suggestions greatly appreciated. Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 3Jun 18, 2009 9:39 pm Orange Trumpet Vine? Life's too short too drink bad wine Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 5Jun 19, 2009 12:02 am I don't think the black eyed susan is allowed to be grown any more. I love the idea of happy wanderer because it is... Western Australian Hardenbergia. http://florabase.calm.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/3961 I have also seen loads of this growing in old growth forests in the Shannon National park south of Manjimup The orange trumpet vine will do well (Pyrostegia) and also the jassies Remember though, the tree itself will shelter the fence in time to come. Even the climbers will cop the heat from the other side of the fence. Maybe toparious has some ideas for some decorative espaliers using climbers. What about a nice grape vine? That way the sun can warm the fence and Magnolias in winter and you get good grapes in summer while having the vine shield the Magnolia from the reflective heat Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 6Jun 19, 2009 8:28 am Thanks Fu. Fu Manchu I don't think the black eyed susan is allowed to be grown any more. I love the idea of happy wanderer because it is... Western Australian Hardenbergia. http://florabase.calm.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/3961 I have also seen loads of this growing in old growth forests in the Shannon National park south of Manjimup The orange trumpet vine will do well (Pyrostegia) and also the jassies I was looking for something that clings close to the fence without 'padding' out - there's not a whole heap of room between the fence and the Magnolias. We also have another Chinese Star Jasmine in the front yard on a side wall and for some reason it is quite slow growing there. We've got one in the backyard and it's going gang busters. Fu Manchu Remember though, the tree itself will shelter the fence in time to come. Even the climbers will cop the heat from the other side of the fence. Maybe toparious has some ideas for some decorative espaliers using climbers. The trees have been in for about 5 years and it only takes a couple of really hot days to scorch just about every leaf. With those hot days last summer and the 47 degree day, EVERY leaf was burnt to buggery so it see,s like it is always taking one step forward and two or three back Fu Manchu What about a nice grape vine? That way the sun can warm the fence and Magnolias in winter and you get good grapes in summer while having the vine shield the Magnolia from the reflective heat That sound quite good. So is the Boston Ivy and Virginia Creeper a no go? I reckon Boston Ivy would be perfect but don't know if it is suitable. Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 7Jun 19, 2009 8:51 am Quote: I don't think the black eyed susan is allowed to be grown any more. May I ask why not?? Its not a rampant plant, at least not here on hot dry west coast of SA, is this like lantana which I beleive is a noxious pest in Qld but doesnt grow out of control here I actually bought a black eyed susan from the nursery only a few months ago and have it growing on a trellis against my shed wall vgolfer, the suggestions I made are all flowering creepers, not plain at all I thought afterwards you might also be able to do a passion fruit vine but they flower (and fruit, of course) - they do grow quickly though. Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 8Jun 19, 2009 9:04 am Helyn Quote: I don't think the black eyed susan is allowed to be grown any more. vgolfer, the suggestions I made are all flowering creepers, not plain at all I thought afterwards you might also be able to do a passion fruit vine but they flower (and fruit, of course) - they do grow quickly though. Thanks Helyn...yeh, I'm looking for straight foliage without a flower as such. Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 9Jun 19, 2009 4:08 pm Black eyed susan is a plant that is a potential environmental problem. Here in WA it is advises nurseries not grow it and in qld as well. http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/cps/rde/dpi/h ... A_HTML.htm PDF... http://www.nqccs.com.au/library/weeds/thunbergia.pdf Thunbergia http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedide ... l&card=V10 This a reference to weed infestations in WA, not a native population. http://florabase.calm.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/19716 It's naughty Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 10Jun 20, 2009 10:01 am Well, naughty nursery shouldn't be selling it then I doubt my black eyed susan will grow out of control here though. I didnt realise they are related to that beautiful purple/blue flowered creeper Morning Glory Vine - now that is rampant, even here.Colloqially known as 'Mile a Minute' for obvious reasons. It is not sold in shops but common along back fences - must be grown along a fence away from any other plant area as it is so aggressive and just overtakes everything in its path, and very hard to root out once its established. Needless to say, we are not putting any in our new garden. Re: Creeper for hot tin fence 11Jun 20, 2009 1:08 pm This a handy guide for selecting any climbers. http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/objtwr/impor ... imbers.pdf Helyn, You ask why do they sell it? Well there are a few reasons why. A lack of up to date knowledge of weed risk plants by nursery staff and management. A lack of responsible behaviour and a lack of weed risk knowledge by wholesale growers who continue to sell it to retail nurseries and landscapers. A continued consumer demand for such plants leads to continued growing and selling of these because some easy money can be made until stricter regulations are enforced, as in the case of Lantana as an example Depends how much direct sun it gets. 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