Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: Molasses and how to use it 141Oct 06, 2011 8:06 am On the molasses bandwagon. Got 25 litre bucket from Bendon Molasses in Sydney and did the Fu trick. Molasses till the water spout and water. Took me an hour to to the backyard, but it smelt good. Neighbour has bees and guess what.....all that sweet smell, made sure that the bees were all over my backyard!! I also used some perlite 3 weeks ago after aerating the lawn. This weekend is Seasol time. I am just hoping that the backyard comes upto scratch after putting some effort. Go molasses!! Re: Molasses and how to use it 142Oct 06, 2011 8:51 am i thought u only put a little bit of molasses in... just to cover the bottom.. rather than up to the water spout.. i also bought molasses and am planning to use it any day now.. hoping for the rain to fall.. where abouts in north west syd are you? Re: Molasses and how to use it 143Oct 09, 2011 6:55 pm guys - don't know if this has already been covered in some previous posts.... but if you couldn't get molasses do you think you could buy raw sugar... mix with water and boil it up.... would this have the same effect as molasses.. my understanding is that molasses is to be used to get the soil organisms active.. thoughts anyone? Project History Deposit - 20/4/2010 Land Settled - 20/8/2010 Council - 30/9/2010 Slab - 17/11/2010 Bricks - 28/01/2011 Roof - 5/02/2011 Gyprock - 4/03/2011 Re: Molasses and how to use it 144Oct 10, 2011 7:16 am I think that will be very expensive and time consuming option. I think it is sugar in the molasses, which sends soils micro flora and fauna nuts, and cheapest and easiest way to get sugar is molasses. That is my understanding anyway, am i right Fu? Re: Molasses and how to use it 145Oct 10, 2011 7:27 am my thinkig is 1kg of sugar is about $1... and therefore 10kg is about $10.... so this could potentially make 10l of sugared water ???? Project History Deposit - 20/4/2010 Land Settled - 20/8/2010 Council - 30/9/2010 Slab - 17/11/2010 Bricks - 28/01/2011 Roof - 5/02/2011 Gyprock - 4/03/2011 Re: Molasses and how to use it 146Oct 10, 2011 3:06 pm qonyx my thinkig is 1kg of sugar is about $1... and therefore 10kg is about $10.... so this could potentially make 10l of sugared water ???? You can do that and the sugars (easily digestable carbs) will feed the microbes, but then you will miss out on a number of other benefits that molasses offers! Molasses also contains a number of trace elements (particularly potash and sulphur) and it has an amazing ability to act as a chealting agent (much like the humic acid cointent in seasol/powerfedd). Chelating agents are a great thing to have in your soil - in basic terms it binds up and chemically converts minerals and nutrients in the soil to be easily "digested" by plants and also worms. Re: Molasses and how to use it 147Oct 11, 2011 6:50 pm Huggy_B Molasses also contains a number of trace elements (particularly potash and sulphur) and it has an amazing ability to act as a chealting agent (much like the humic acid cointent in seasol/powerfedd). Chelating agents are a great thing to have in your soil - in basic terms it binds up and chemically converts minerals and nutrients in the soil to be easily "digested" by plants and also worms. Thanks Huggy_B I had no idea Molasses had so many other things than sugar which helps soil structure. where abouts do you live qonyx?You should be able find some supplier i think. I had so many suppliers just arround 15 km rad from where i live. Re: Molasses and how to use it 149Nov 11, 2011 10:22 am most definatly it wont hurt it Harrisdale backyard finally done! Re: Molasses and how to use it 150Nov 11, 2011 10:26 am Yep I "molassesed" our new lawn on the verge and it's looking awesome .. DH has also added some water but it's lovely and green and he's had to mow it a few times since it was laid For info on our build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=43093 Built the McLaren by Dechellis - slab down 22 Feb - handover 30 Aug 2011 - and gardens finished 9 Dec 2012!! Re: Molasses and how to use it 151Nov 11, 2011 11:15 am Molasses can be used anywhere in the garden on any plant. It's not what it does for plants directly. That is simply a benefit you are seeing of inadvertently doing something else all together. What you guys are doing is feeding soil microbes. The complex sugars in molasses are of enormous benefit to beneficial bacteria especially, as well as fungi types. What they do is make nutrients in the soil more available to your plants. They break down organic compounds into different nutrients and others break those nutrients such as Nitrogen into forms readily taken up by plants. This is one area now finally being acknowledged by the best soil scientists in the world. That makes a bag of fertiliser look like horticulture with training wheels. Permaculture and orgainc gardening enthusiasts have known this stuff for years and going back to 100 ago and before, that's how we cared for plants. According to the CSIRO just 1mm of plant root will, on average, depend on around 1million micro organisms for its existence. A shovel of soil has far more wonderful hard working beneficial micro organisms in it than the number of all humans that have have ever existed on earth. Yet everyday we are convinced by turf carers, landscapers, poorly skilled garden centres, Horts with low (or outdated skills) and TV shows that we must kill these things or be ignorant to the very reason they are there. They are the very reason life on earth exists and the very way you get landscapes actually becoming problem free and easy care. Weedsprays, fungicides and insecticides when used will obliterate the soils living universe. Many fertilisers will also do this and even the good fertilisers do this when used inappropriately. This is why and how the mulch I recommend is so good for your landscape. It becomes the basis of all life in your garden and the means of sustenance to your plants in an indirect and natural way. Less work and better results. Less water, cooler homes, cheaper electricity bills. Grow your own food based on this, you get lower grocery costs, feel healthier, and don't poison your body with the cocktails of chemicals hidden in food. Anyone buying fruit that's out of season in WA? Well its treated with Methyl Bromide gas. So are imported plants into WA. It's nasty. Think before using a fungicide or fertiliser. Make the most of your money. Use the right thing in the right place. In the end you get a truly easy care landscape and a whole lot more without barley lifting a finger. Value for money. Re: Molasses and how to use it 152Nov 11, 2011 11:39 am qonyx guys - don't know if this has already been covered in some previous posts.... but if you couldn't get molasses do you think you could buy raw sugar... mix with water and boil it up.... would this have the same effect as molasses.. my understanding is that molasses is to be used to get the soil organisms active.. thoughts anyone? It is used in some large scale turf care but the whole reason for doing so is lost all together. Sugar has refined simpler sugars. Molasses has complex sugars. The molasses as mentioned also has a heap of other great things that make some lovely stuff happen in the soil that you will never see but will always see what they do for you. Re: Molasses and how to use it 153Nov 11, 2011 11:41 am There are other cheap natural things that work well in combination with molasses that make the whole thing amazing but I am not really able to discuss those publicly and I'm not often going to say privately. Jeeze I gotta keep some secrets from guys Re: Molasses and how to use it 154Nov 11, 2011 12:17 pm And you can spread it on your toast for breakfast...can't do that with other fertilisers!! My grandfather used to have it on toast when I was a kid, although I wasn't too keen on it, think it was too strong if I remember correctly. Must try it again!! Re: Molasses and how to use it 155Nov 18, 2011 10:48 am Hey guys and gals, how similar is Treacle to Molasses?? seems to me they are almost one and the same yes?? Building Modified Boston Mk11 with Fairmont Homes Seaford Meadows Contracts signed Sept '09 Slab Poured 8/2/10 Frame Started 15/3/10 ----Frame Finished 22/3/10 Brickwork started 23/3/10 ----FINISHED 25/3/10! Insulation/Wiring/Gyprock started 8/4/10 ---- 10/4/10 Kitchen completed 21/6/10 Storm-water Completed 21/6/10 Painting Started 3/7/10 FINISHED HANDOVER 5/8/10!!!!! Re: Molasses and how to use it 156Nov 18, 2011 3:10 pm Fu Manchu Molasses can be used anywhere in the garden on any plant. It's not what it does for plants directly. That is simply a benefit you are seeing of inadvertently doing something else all together. What you guys are doing is feeding soil microbes. The complex sugars in molasses are of enormous benefit to beneficial bacteria especially, as well as fungi types. What they do is make nutrients in the soil more available to your plants. They break down organic compounds into different nutrients and others break those nutrients such as Nitrogen into forms readily taken up by plants. This is one area now finally being acknowledged by the best soil scientists in the world. That makes a bag of fertiliser look like horticulture with training wheels. Permaculture and orgainc gardening enthusiasts have known this stuff for years and going back to 100 ago and before, that's how we cared for plants. According to the CSIRO just 1mm of plant root will, on average, depend on around 1million micro organisms for its existence. A shovel of soil has far more wonderful hard working beneficial micro organisms in it than the number of all humans that have have ever existed on earth. Yet everyday we are convinced by turf carers, landscapers, poorly skilled garden centres, Horts with low (or outdated skills) and TV shows that we must kill these things or be ignorant to the very reason they are there. They are the very reason life on earth exists and the very way you get landscapes actually becoming problem free and easy care. Weedsprays, fungicides and insecticides when used will obliterate the soils living universe. Many fertilisers will also do this and even the good fertilisers do this when used inappropriately. This is why and how the mulch I recommend is so good for your landscape. It becomes the basis of all life in your garden and the means of sustenance to your plants in an indirect and natural way. Less work and better results. Less water, cooler homes, cheaper electricity bills. Grow your own food based on this, you get lower grocery costs, feel healthier, and don't poison your body with the cocktails of chemicals hidden in food. Anyone buying fruit that's out of season in WA? Well its treated with Methyl Bromide gas. So are imported plants into WA. It's nasty. Think before using a fungicide or fertiliser. Make the most of your money. Use the right thing in the right place. In the end you get a truly easy care landscape and a whole lot more without barley lifting a finger. Value for money. Well said Fu Makes sense to me ... For info on our build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=43093 Built the McLaren by Dechellis - slab down 22 Feb - handover 30 Aug 2011 - and gardens finished 9 Dec 2012!! Molasses and how to use it 157Nov 18, 2011 7:15 pm Nathanial Hey guys and gals, how similar is Treacle to Molasses?? seems to me they are almost one and the same yes?? no. Re: Molasses and how to use it 158Nov 19, 2011 12:30 pm "Molasses (E) Treacle Usually available as "standardized molasses" in drums, this is not a particularly high-energy product. Its greatest advantages lie in its properties as a binder and its ability to improve feed palatability. It is very difficult to work with without dilution or heating, but it is nevertheless a good source of the mineral potassium." http://agriculture.kzntl.gov.za/portal/ ... fault.aspx "Molasses is a thick, brown to deep black, honey-like substance made when cane or beet sugar is processed. It is enjoyed as a sweetener in many countries, and most particularly in England where it is called treacle. For hundreds of years, molasses and sulfur, or treacle and brimstone were thought to have healthful benefits, and children were frequently given doses of the product." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-molasses.htm And whilst i dont particularly believe some of the other stuff quoted here, the bit about Molasses being Treacle and vice versa is the go? http://www.homeopathy-blackheath.com/Bl ... lasses.pdf Building Modified Boston Mk11 with Fairmont Homes Seaford Meadows Contracts signed Sept '09 Slab Poured 8/2/10 Frame Started 15/3/10 ----Frame Finished 22/3/10 Brickwork started 23/3/10 ----FINISHED 25/3/10! Insulation/Wiring/Gyprock started 8/4/10 ---- 10/4/10 Kitchen completed 21/6/10 Storm-water Completed 21/6/10 Painting Started 3/7/10 FINISHED HANDOVER 5/8/10!!!!! Re: Molasses and how to use it 159Nov 19, 2011 12:58 pm buy a tin of each from a supermarket. Open the tin and have a look, taste them, smell them. They are not the same. Molasses and how to use it 160Nov 19, 2011 5:59 pm I have offered the best advice I can and I don't suggest using alternatives to molasses in a dedicated molasses and how to use it thread. It will make things too confusing for readers. I am aware of treacle but like nearly everything here in this forum there is always a reason why it's not mentioned. That sucks! Hope it all works out. Good to move away from steel anyway for all your reasons, but it's also thermally poor. 16 17857 If what you describe is correct then the brick wall has been dry lined with villa board. That basically means that the villa board is glued to the brick wall with… 3 8310 I'm putting a new floor in my kitchen, slate flagging on a standard concrete slab. I have allowed for a bed thickness of up to 20mm to accommodate the different… 0 17539 |