I think he meant it as tongue in cheek.. hence the monty pyton comment..
Browse Forums Landscape & Garden Design Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 21Mar 01, 2010 9:49 pm armitage57 Interesting reply since I have three degrees and my husband has two. Some very ignorant comments in here...you may have had a bad experience with council but not all Council workers "lean on shovels"!! I think he meant it as tongue in cheek.. hence the monty pyton comment.. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 22Mar 01, 2010 11:58 pm Indeed Ignorant or generalist? Sorry if I offended anyone. I still believe yes minister was a documentary though, just quietly... Crucifixion? Line to the left, one cross only.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88kf1J6Kv4 Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 23Mar 02, 2010 8:16 pm OK sorry for being defensive, sometimes when youre hearts in your job and I choose to be there to return something to the community....the "generalist" Council worker comments can and do wear you down... Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 24Mar 02, 2010 10:25 pm I imagine it would. I am sure the public can be as brutal as a drunk in a bar at 9am... Never mind me. You have to see it from both sides I guess. Its hard when you have done everything right only to be rejected, goes with life itself I guess. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 25Mar 08, 2010 10:25 am roger.winklebury @BeatrixKiddo, - The fine is $30,000 Someone a few doors down from me got fined $110,000 plus court costs for killing 4 blackbutts - plus he then has had to replace them with new blackbutts and maintain them for five years, with regular inspections to ensure they are not dying - all at his own cost Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 26Mar 09, 2010 10:29 pm Your first mistake was going through council in the first place. They wouldn't even know if you cut the tree down - they only way they normally find out is if your neighbours inform the council, but by the sound of it your neighbours are in agreeance with you. Councils are pig headed and they like to remind you of who's in control. I agree with some previous posts...But what I would do now is... Get a second arborist report to confirm what the first said Attach photos of any damage done to your neighbours car or a photo of the branch on your neighbours car if you took them Get a letter from you neighbour also expressing their concerns And to wrap this up all nicely a letter from a solicitor outling some facts to the council. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 27Mar 09, 2010 11:18 pm I saw this on the news just last night. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 5838463185 I love trees but I'm not a fan of the tree protection regulations. I hope you can sort things out with the council soon. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 28Mar 10, 2010 3:14 pm @Macy Thanks, I hope so too. @jcif Yes, I'm beginning to agree, but I wanted to do the right thing. I'll take your suggestion and get a second report and letters from my neighbour and solicitor. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 29Mar 10, 2010 7:04 pm Macy I saw this on the news just last night. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 5838463185 I love trees but I'm not a fan of the tree protection regulations. I hope you can sort things out with the council soon. This is something that annoys many tree experts. It is often and nearly always a situation that starts years and years before. Improper pruning is the most common cause for branches falling. There is certain ways to prune trees and this is why the use of a certified arborist is so vital. most people get a tree lopper in and the trees are butchered in the eyes of better trained experts. They can pick as soon as look at a tree what it's history has been, what branches will drop and which will be fine. if a tree is incorrectly pruned there are certain types of regrowth that is destined to become an "issue" When trees blow over it often goes back to the plant not being potted on correctly at various stages of it's development. The old adage that a tree should be bought as a seedling or tube is not true. They (the Arborists) are finding that a well grown tree in a 30ltr pot is a great size to plant from provided it has had every care in the sizes in between. So wasn't kept too long in a tube, not too long in a 175mm pot and not too long in a 30/45ltr pot. Rocket pots are developing some of the healthiest and best grown trees ever! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ In Kings Park Botanic Gardens here in Perth they have found that trees would grow really well for say 25 years and then stop growing or blow over or they just drop off the perch. The cause was nearly always poor root development and that began way back as a baby plant. Staking also effects root growth in a negative way and won't become evident till 20 years later when it blows over. Even big trees that blow over in storms that have been there for 50 years will have root development problems that can be traced back to poor growing as a wee baby tree. Trees are not the problem, we are, we create the problem Sometimes we build structures like roads and paths which block oxygen to the roots, this also causes problems later on, way way later on. With better tree growing, more people recognising and using the amazing skills of Arborists we will see almost negligible damage from trees. More trees need to be grown in our cities and our landscpaes. The results of that are massive reductions in metropolitan thermal heat absorbtion and healthier rain fall totals in summer. The correct selection of tree course is vital. The Nursery industry needs a heap of work to be done on that so that the average punter can get the correct advice when purchasing. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 30Mar 14, 2010 1:00 am ^^ everything he said ++ There is the hidden problems of damaged roots becoming infected and subsequently rotting. Hypothetically, It would appear that the tree in the article has suffered under the drought, lost half its roots and then found water under the pipe. Its then tried to slurp that up and in so doing cracked the pipe more. When that happened the soil became a soup deep down and spread. Given it can't compress it can only expand the soils volume against the weight of the mass involved. Instead of pushing up if it can't go down it will run laterally. If the basement was leaking days after the pipe had been fixed then you can bet there is about 2 or 3 Olympic swimming pools worth of water sitting within the strata over a space of several properties. Ticking time bomb. I bet the houses crack now as the water vacates leaving a vacuum. Stressed trees need serious care. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 31Mar 14, 2010 2:00 pm Fu Manchu Trees are not the problem, we are, we create the problem Sometimes we build structures like roads and paths which block oxygen to the roots, this also causes problems later on, way way later on. When they released land near us a few years ago they inspected the trees and kept a lot of them. We might have been interested in building again, if fact there was one block... but there was a tree in the neighbour's yard and I didn't want to be dependent on a neighbour to look after it and have it regularly inspected. Anyway, identifying healthy trees worth preserving is one thing, but what worried me was whether the builders and new owners do anything to protect those trees. Trucks driving over the ground compacting it, bobcats changing ground levels, how close the house is built, what is planted around the tree, whether retaining walls are constructed in the vicinity... does anyone do any of those things with any educated thought about how it might affect the tree? Like I said, I love trees, but I think a lot more thought needs to be given to the issue, rather than just having rules stopping people from cutting them down. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 32Mar 14, 2010 6:28 pm Fair point and this is the very reason why when planting trees on boundaries in urban environments are not the place. They need to be central or at least well within the property and by well with in I mean at least 5m and more if possible. On boundaries we can not use them for what they do, shade and cool the home and soil. (of course there is much more but you get the idea) Existing trees that have unknown histories are of course cause for concern in that situation but there has to be some sort of control and regulation of these plants or their existence becomes unimportant or devalued. Street plantings and new plantings now have opportunity to be managed very well. I know many councils have values put on their trees. The City of Subiaco is one that does. They have valued every single tree on council property. Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 33Mar 14, 2010 7:42 pm Redman Judge to council = Is the person responsible for rejecting this matter an Arborist? Council = no sir, he is a University graduate trained in social arts and media. Judge = this case is closed. Ruling in favor of complainant. You sir are a legend ..... I woke up the baby with my yelp of laughter!!! The good thing is, here in Northern / Eastern Melbourne, the greens among us have seemingly relaxed a little, and are more receptive with the idea of 'cleaning' one's property, as apposed to just chopping down perfectly good, harmless trees. The levels of undergrowth, dead and diseased trees etc, especially in areas like Eltham, St Andrews etc, is frightening. They dodged a big bullet last year. Plans Done Feb 2010 Permit Done 23 April. Set out Done. Scrape and Excavations Done. Footings Done May 10th. Now, to find a brickie.Got one! Sub-floor bricks & Garage Done - 13th June Sub-floor installed 28 June (?) Re: How do I kill a eucalyptus tree discretely? 34Mar 14, 2010 8:10 pm In Beenleigh QLD we lived on a 1/2 acre block "natural" surroundings. When lightning hit one of the big eucalytpus trees it split in half and toppled. Luckily the enormous Ironbark next to it caught and stopped it from causing serious damage to our neighbours property. As it was inside our boundary we had no choice but to employ someone to remove it, and it had not yet caused any damage so SES weren't about to look at it. Several thousand dollars was required to remove it safely and there were approximately 10 more trees just like it around the property. It was certainly a factor that influenced us to sell and downsize to a more manageable block. Now back in Victoria and we are being cornered into planting more eucalytpus for our estates Tree Planting Zone by the developers. Can't say I would ever want to see another gum tree however I will take on the advice here about smart pruning etc. Mind you I will be doing my own research. I don't feel compelled to hire an arborist to advise me about looking after a tree that, in the end, I would rather not have at all. 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