Browse Forums DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair 1 May 12, 2014 3:25 pm Hi All, Moving into our house I have realised there is quiet a bit of DIY to be done around. What are some of the tools (which brand) I will need to: - cut some timber (sleepers for garden edging/beds)? - build a garden bed - fix a broken fence There are some pieces of iron rods (about 3mm dia) jetting out of the existing concrete at the back. Thinking of getting a Multi-tool like a Ryobi cordless to cut these. I understand this may be subjective, however suggestions on good value for money products that will last, really appreciated. e.g. I had to return a hedge trimmer I recently purchased from Aldi as it did not do the job. Same with an $10 spade that i got from BigW which just broke. I now have a Kelso spade from Bunnings and have put it through the works. Its still s good as new. Thank you for your time and help. fAiTh_LoVe_HoPe Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 2May 12, 2014 5:52 pm If you're going to go the cordless way, then the Ryobi 18+ has the widest range of tools that go with it. I know you got burnt with other cheap stuff, but if you're going to get a circular saw, just get a cheapie, they generally give you good bang per buck. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 3May 12, 2014 9:38 pm bpratt I know you got burnt with other cheap stuff, but if you're going to get a circular saw, just get a cheapie, they generally give you good bang per buck. Thanks for that. Any particular brand? Model? fAiTh_LoVe_HoPe Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 4May 13, 2014 9:49 am I've got a old GMC one that still works fine after all these years, and they had a bit of a dod gy reputation, but I've heard that the ozito ones aren't all that bad. Try to get one with the largest blade you can, at least a 185mm one, bigger is better as you can cut through thicker timber, but 185mm will do most household stuff. Just remember to keep your mind actively thinking of safety issues on each individual job that you do with it... like all power tools, things can and do go wrong from time to time if your mind is not on the job. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 5May 13, 2014 10:20 am I used to buy all the expensive stuff and although great they still fail or to buy a new battery (or get the battery repacked) it still costs a fortune. My motto now is to buy cheap tools but buy good quality blades and drill bits etc. Also if you can look at buying those items that share batteries. That way you can basically buy a new tool when the old battery fails and you don't feel so let down. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 6May 13, 2014 11:02 am Thanks for the tip. I need something for drilling into concrete which is a one off scenario considering I need to install a shed on a concrete slab. As well as drilling into brick and wood to hang fixtures etc. These perhaps will be more frequent. Ozito rotary hammer drill http://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-850w-r ... t_p6290249 What tools will I need for cutting timber (garden sleeper for edging)/fixing furniture Is a circular saw the only tool I will need? or some other saws too? What do you think of this? a work colleague recommended this. Too expensive? overkill? Milwaukee 165mm Cordless Circular Saw FUEL #M18 CCS55-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOlhXydddQg Am thinking of getting this Ryobi Multi tool for the odd small odd jobs here and there. http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-18 ... y_p6210379 Thanks again guys. fAiTh_LoVe_HoPe Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 7May 13, 2014 1:40 pm robbie55 My motto now is to buy cheap tools Bad advice really. For a one off job maybe, but even under a little hard going they can fail. If you're a guy whose looking at having a workshop of usable tools that will survive over time and take some hard work, name brand every time. You dont have to shop at Glenfords and buy top of the line models that tradies would, Bunnings do sell name brand name models aimed for the home market at very reasonable prices. GMC, Ozito, and other Chinese "Bunnings" brands are rubbish. Tradies would never buy these. Same goes for the Taurus brand being sold at Aldi. forget it. People who say they buy expensive stuff and it fails dont make sense to me. You get what you pay for esp with tools. Ive got a Makita 100m angle grinder still going strong after 15+ years (with 2 brush set changes) Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 8May 13, 2014 3:23 pm qebtel robbie55 My motto now is to buy cheap tools Bad advice really. For a one off job maybe, but even under a little hard going they can fail. If you're a guy whose looking at having a workshop of usable tools that will survive over time and take some hard work, name brand every time. You dont have to shop at Glenfords and buy top of the line models that tradies would, Bunnings do sell name brand name models aimed for the home market at very reasonable prices. GMC, Ozito, and other Chinese "Bunnings" brands are rubbish. Tradies would never buy these. Same goes for the Taurus brand being sold at Aldi. forget it. People who say they buy expensive stuff and it fails dont make sense to me. You get what you pay for esp with tools. Ive got a Makita 100m angle grinder still going strong after 15+ years (with 2 brush set changes) I see your point, there is a price to be paid for quality and I'm normally an advocate for that line but in my experience it hasn't always been the case. Plus when I say cheap tools I don't mean the GMC etc you mentioned, it just doesn't have to be DeWalt, Makita etc. My frustrations with pricier tools comes from having picture framing stores where we purchased many pricey tools only to find they did not last and in framing they wouldn't have been under as much pressure as I imagine they would've been on a build site. Regardless the point I was trying to make is often and particularly when working with timber the finish is more often based on what actually is cutting/finishing the surface - a good blade in a cheap tool will give the same cut as the same blade in a more expensive tool (assuming the same rpm etc). Personally I think your better off spending the money on buying and maintaining these parts than spending big on the tools themselves. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 9May 14, 2014 11:10 am I didnt understand at all what you said in your 2nd paragraph. you owned picture framing business? Tools for that might be a lot different to standard reno type tools the OP was alluding to? robbie55 Plus when I say cheap tools I don't mean the GMC etc you mentioned, it just doesn't have to be DeWalt, Makita etc. This is generally how its rated Expensive (branded, trade quality) - Top end Makita, Dewalt, Hitachi, etc Medium (branded, home handyman quality) - Lower end Makita, Ryobi, Black & Decker, etc Cheap (brand with no reputation) - Ozito, Xceed, RockForce, whatever.....could be 1000s different rebadged stuff from the same Chinese factories. I bought a Performance brand handsaw for $20 once (Woolies I think). After relatively small amount of use the bearing sh1t itself. I fixed that, then the motor stopped working. really nasty cheap Chinese rubbish. I bought an Ozito dropsaw , and was using it on a house reno, again typical light home use, and after 6 months the switch in the handle fell apart. Just rediculous. That doesnt happen on brand name stuff. robbie55 the point I was trying to make is often and particularly when working with timber the finish is more often based on what actually is cutting/finishing the surface - a good blade in a cheap tool will give the same cut as the same blade in a more expensive tool Thats obvious - a cheap drill will drill just as good a hole with the same drill bit as a Dewalt. The OP wasnt talking about finished effect, he asked for "suggestions on good value for money products that will last". On that point, I would say Ryobi is my favourite at the moment, I have a Ryobi drill, elec planer, and drop saw , all ergonomically designed and easy to use, well made with a quality feel. And they are cheap these days. Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 10May 14, 2014 11:24 am qebtel On that point, I would say Ryobi is my favourite at the moment, I have a Ryobi drill, elec planer, and drop saw , all ergonomically designed and easy to use, well made with a quality feel. And they are cheap these days. And would be cheaper still if not for the exclusive to bunnings deal that we now have. As you can guess I like the Ryobi brand, in particular the One+ range of cordless tools, as it is quite a large range that even the better brands don't seem to beat. edit: changed 18+ to the correct name of One+ Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 11May 14, 2014 9:11 pm I am known to attempt everything once, build it, fix it, create it, etc. The one tool that I don't know how did without for so long was a good cordless drill. That would be the first thing I would buy. For someone who does little DIY jobs and doesn't want to splash out, I would suggest the Ryobi One+ range, very affordable and have a selection of other tools which are interchangeable with the batteries! Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 13May 16, 2014 12:13 am Thanks heaps. Really appreciate the comments here. Anyone here experienced with a Ryobi chainsaw? Would these be any good? http://www.bunnings.com.au/compare?prod ... 30,3380719 I've read petrol chainsaws are much better in terms of performance and maintenance. Any suggestions? Thanks again. fAiTh_LoVe_HoPe Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 14May 16, 2014 7:38 am force10x Thanks heaps. Really appreciate the comments here. Anyone here experienced with a Ryobi chainsaw? Would these be any good? http://www.bunnings.com.au/compare?prod ... 30,3380719 I've read petrol chainsaws are much better in terms of performance and maintenance. Any suggestions? Thanks again. Yep only do a petrol chainsaw the electric ones just don't cut it. Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 15May 26, 2014 11:00 am Just an update. I will be picking up the Bosch 750W Impact Drill PSB750RCE today. Hopefully this should be all I need for the weekend DIY project and the occasional job on concrete/brick/redgum sleepers. I am still considering a Ryobi Chainsaw others like the Bosch/Makita are a bit dear for the occasional use. Will update once I get the other tools. fAiTh_LoVe_HoPe Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 16Aug 07, 2014 10:35 am my experience is for high power tool, like impact drill, mitre saw, grinder, buy at least Ryobi as it has engineering design that takes safety and stableness into consideration. hand drill, sander, etc, ozito is enough, for consumable parts, especially low end product, like osciallating saw blade for WOOD, Made in China is not that bad, and actually has good value for money I have Bosch multitool, but its blade is so expensive, bought some from gumtree and ebay, much much cheaper, can not see a difference. save me lots of money but masonary drill, I bought a box of combined for 20 bucks from Bunnings, cracked after 20 seconds, and used a German one, $15/each, did the job well Re: Which must have tools/brands for Newbie at D.I.Y. 17Aug 30, 2014 2:48 pm If you want Value for money, find a near second hand set of Makita power tool set that is about a year old, that way you are getting a top quality brand, and a good price for something that you will use here and there, rather than buy brand new cheap tools that will give you problems. 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