Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 May 29, 2014 10:15 pm hi guys, we are making decisions on our new kitchen and our architect specified a 3.6m bench, however we've now realised that engineered stone comes in 3m lengths. should we shorten the bench or go with a join? We have decided on Essa stone new crystal salt. anyone got a picture of a join in this? thanks Re: Joins in stone benchtops 2May 29, 2014 10:48 pm My understanding is that with Essa Stone you will be able to see the join after 3m. This is also dependant on the builder. Higher end builders will have normally charge more and hence you will have a better join. is you are going with 40mm in thickness (width) you will see a feint join, not nearly as visible as the one you will see on top. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 3May 30, 2014 12:40 am Not sure about more expensive builders doing better joins as it is the stone mason that joins it. The stone costs the same. I think it will depend on colour selection. I think for the colour you are looking at the join will be not that noticeable plus the mason should put the join in the most logical spot. There are a couple of really good members that are in the biz and should chime in. One that I read a lot form is Cutting Edge Kitchens, maybe a PM to him will save some grief..... Ciao Mark Re: Joins in stone benchtops 5May 30, 2014 8:19 am As others have said a join is not a problem but usually put through a sink or cooktop. In my kitchen I didn't want a join in the island unit so I brought it down from 3600mm to 3220mm. Silestone offer jumbo slabs at 3250x1590mm http://www.silestoneoceania.com/wp-cont ... d-Bath.pdf Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Joins in stone benchtops 6May 30, 2014 8:51 am Thanks, the join wont be at the sink as it is an undermount sink and apparently it weakens it (according to the kitchen guy) and there is no cooktop in that bench. Sooo hard. Thanks for the idea about dipslay homes, might go for a drive this weekend. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 7May 30, 2014 6:44 pm I have a joint in a lighter coloured Ceasarstone benchtop. You practically can't see it unless you know it and go very close. But what i see know, that the tiny joint becomes a tiny bit more visible because of my wiping the benchtop. It is not a worry at all but i noticed it. I guess it all depends on your stonemason how well he gets the pieces together. In my case it is not in the island but were my L joins. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 8May 30, 2014 9:44 pm I've got a joint going through the sink (in an island) and through a cook top, tops are Smartstone Pierre Bleu (black with fleks) and you can hardly see the joins. It comes down to how good the bench top installers are. Ask to look at a couple of their previous installations that have joints to get an idea of how good they actually are. ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Re: Joins in stone benchtops 10May 31, 2014 9:13 am What i have done previously if you have a long benchtop and extends toward another room is to either drop down a section of the bench say about 100 to 150 down at the end or raise that last section of say 800mm long to remove the joint but also give the kitchen a little flare. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 11May 31, 2014 9:22 am We had caesterstone counter tops installed where I work 4 years ago (light coloured bench, i think its Ice Snow) and the joins have become more visible over the years, it's looking yellow compared to the rest of the benchtop. Especially the join along the edge to make the 40mm bench top - one of the reasons why I decided on a 20mm benchtop for home. I think it also depends on the skill of the installer. Custom downslope build Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=61873 Blog http://www.buildingroyalmanor.blogspot.com.au Re: Joins in stone benchtops 12May 31, 2014 9:27 am HomeAngels We had caesterstone counter tops installed where I work 4 years ago (light coloured bench, i think its Ice Snow) and the joins have become more visible over the years, it's looking yellow compared to the rest of the benchtop. Especially the join along the edge to make the 40mm bench top - one of the reasons why I decided on a 20mm benchtop for home. I think it also depends on the skill of the installer. You won't see the join on the edge if they are mitre joins. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 13May 31, 2014 9:32 am JB1 HomeAngels We had caesterstone counter tops installed where I work 4 years ago (light coloured bench, i think its Ice Snow) and the joins have become more visible over the years, it's looking yellow compared to the rest of the benchtop. Especially the join along the edge to make the 40mm bench top - one of the reasons why I decided on a 20mm benchtop for home. I think it also depends on the skill of the installer. You won't see the join on the edge if they are mitre joins. Yes, very true! Obviously these weren't. Custom downslope build Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=61873 Blog http://www.buildingroyalmanor.blogspot.com.au Re: Joins in stone benchtops 14Jun 01, 2014 8:41 am There are some real cowboys in the stone industry. I will only supply stone through my stone mason who I have used for years and does a good job. Occasionally I loose a kitchen because my stone is around $500 more expensive than the cheap and nasty boys. I would prefer to pay $500 more and know that the stone will last the lifetime of the kitchen, have perfect joins and my customers will be happy with it! I have heard some really bad stories about what some of the stone companies will do! Buyer beware! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Joins in stone benchtops 15Jun 04, 2014 9:05 pm If joins are a concern I would look into acrylic benchtops. You can do all the same things as with a stone (and more) but the joins are completely invisible. I have an acrylic top at my work which apparently is too long not to have a join and I have spent plenty of time looking for the join but I can't for the life of me tell where it is. Acrylic can scratch much more easily than stone though but we just buff ours back with some jiff and it comes up like new. I've had stone at home in the last and now have a laminate top but I prefer the acrylic that we have at work. It is a nice balance between feeling solid and sturdy but not too cold or hard. I used to smash too many glasses on our stone top Re: Joins in stone benchtops 16Jun 05, 2014 1:30 pm for those with waterfall edges, does the stone completely butt up against the melamine cabinets on both sides? One side (where the pot drawers are) has a small gap, we can actually see light coming in from the other side. It seems they cut the benchtop a few mm too long and then the edge was epoxied on without due consideration. Re: Joins in stone benchtops 17Jun 05, 2014 6:22 pm Marmalade for those with waterfall edges, does the stone completely butt up against the melamine cabinets on both sides? One side (where the pot drawers are) has a small gap, we can actually see light coming in from the other side. It seems they cut the benchtop a few mm too long and then the edge was epoxied on without due consideration. Yes it should but hard up but sometimes it doesn't. It is very hard to get a mitred waterfall spot on. 1-2mm gap is acceptable against a cabinet as long as they fill with a matching silicon so you don't see the gap/light. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Joins in stone benchtops 20Dec 12, 2020 10:38 pm Correct installation of stone requires a joint at every change of direction. A U shaped kitchen will have a minimum of two joints. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Hi, planning on using the attached stone pieces in my bathroom. I want to remove stains and gloss seal. Can I get some advice on best way to remove stains and best… 0 7418 Re my second point – yes exactly. And often it may take additional time if the manufacturer recommends no more than X meters… 3 6292 Thankyou for your advice. We do have Caesar coming out and hopefully resolve the issue for us. 4 19508 |