Browse Forums Kitchen Corner Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 3Apr 29, 2015 9:55 am Caesarstone is virtually non-porous, just 0.02% water absorption by weight. In comparison natural stone is more than 10 times as porous which means spills need to be cleaned up right away, and often regular sealants need to be applied. We might be a bit biased, but you can't argue with the facts! ![]() We also have a handy little inforgraphic comparing the properties of Caesarstone quartz to natural stone. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 4Apr 30, 2015 9:04 pm I have white caesarstone and a couple of cups of tea appeared to stain it after they were left for a day, maybe due to the tannins. However when I cleaned it with bicarbonate and vinegar they did eventually come out. It seems very durable and i just wipe mine at the end of the day. I'm just a bit careful with things like turmeric. Tomato is not a problem. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 5May 01, 2015 5:55 am That would just be a surface stain which could happen on any surface what so ever including laminates and the like. Doesn't matter what you spill eventually it will need to be cleaned and the longer it is left the harder to clean. The main point is if the product porous the stain can get inside in which case it becomes next to impossible to clean. But Caesaratone and other similar products are not porous hence any stain stays on the surface and can be cleaned. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 6May 01, 2015 9:38 am We have a large granite benchtop used for all our food preparation. It has been there 25 years. The kids learned how to cook there. It has had all manner of stuff spilled and left soaking on it. We've never treated it with any special product, polish or sealer. In the centre it shows a little wear and it's not quite as shiny as when new however you'd have to look carefully to notice. Never tried the fake product but I'd use granite next time for sure....but this one will see out my life time. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 7May 01, 2015 10:12 am ![]() We have a large granite benchtop used for all our food preparation. It has been there 25 years. The kids learned how to cook there. It has had all manner of stuff spilled and left soaking on it. We've never treated it with any special product, polish or sealer. In the centre it shows a little wear and it's not quite as shiny as when new however you'd have to look carefully to notice. Never tried the fake product but I'd use granite next time for sure....but this one will see out my life time. Your lucky then. Some lighter coloured natural stones you have to be very very carful with!! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 8May 02, 2015 6:34 pm Natamambo is after a dark colour benchtop, so i would have no hesitation in recommending Granite. I had UBA TUBA which is a darkish colour and we never had any issues, we used it for making pastas, doughs and all sorts of stuff and never had an issue and have never sealed it. As said above it has an absorbtion rate of 0.2% which is extremely low if i read his comments properly. All this bad name of granite i find is unreasonable, its a very tough and hard wearing product. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 9May 02, 2015 8:42 pm ![]() All this bad name of granite i find is unreasonable, its a very tough and hard wearing product. Don't think anyone has said granite is bad (I said problematic). The question was a recommendation one product over another based on a specific requirement which was staining. Think ceasarstone wins hands down in those requirements. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 10May 02, 2015 9:34 pm I found this discussion on the two options. http://somersoft.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-65200.html Many pros and cons on both sides with no definite answer. Seems to come down personal choice. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 11May 04, 2015 10:42 am ![]() I found this discussion on the two options. http://somersoft.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-65200.html Many pros and cons on both sides with no definite answer. Seems to come down personal choice. We'd suggest taking those comments with a grain of salt as there are many misconceptions and incorrect assumptions about Caesarstone in there being shared as fact. I'll do a quick myth-busting post to help clear things up. Quote: no pro on the subject, but you can get a generic ceaser stone, same factory even, its even cheaper with out the brand name Nope. There is no such thing as generic Caesarstone, and we certainly don't produce anything other than our own Caesarstone original quartz surfaces at our manufacturing facilities. Caesarstone only sells the products which we manufacture ourselves unlike other competitors who outsource production or import products from several suppliers. Quote: Friends of ours got a caesarstone benchtop, dropped a bottle on it and took out a massive chunk. They said it was all bubbly inside and didn't seem very strong. The "bubbly" inside would simply be where the quartz crystals were seated inside the slab which would still be inside the piece that broke off. Our slabs are completely solid and made from up to 93% natural quartz aggregate. Caesarstone is also five times more impact resistant than granite and ten times more impact resistant than marble. Quote: Caesar stone cannot take heat like hot pans, were granite can. Caesarstone can withstand temperatures of up to 100 degrees celsius, however the issue isn't with the surface burning but rather from thermal shock. Neither Caesarstone nor granite or other natural stones are immune to thermal shock which is where a concentrated heat source can cause cause the surface to expand by different amounts, introducing stress which can lead to a crack. This is why we always recommend using a heat pad or trivet when placing hot items on the benchtop. Quote: You can also cut on granite The only reason we don't recommend cutting on Caesarstone is because you will blunt your knives. ![]() Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 12May 04, 2015 4:30 pm If I could afford granite and if it was a dark colour I'd choose it over manufactured stone. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 13May 04, 2015 5:18 pm Hi ceaserstoneau firstly thanks for all the advise has been most helpful. Question I have is in regards to your infographic about the cm2 to kg weight. What is this ratio? Reason I ask is we have a laundry bench in 20mm ceaserstone that spans a large distance with no additional support apart from a bead of 25mm wood screwed to the wall on one side and back then other end the stone is supported by cabinetry. There is a clear space of no additional support of approx 1641mm So my question essentially is with a span of 1641mm by 600 wide with only a side and rear support how much weight could that 20mm stone take? The red in below pic Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 14May 04, 2015 6:58 pm ![]() There is a clear space of no additional support of approx 1641mm So my question essentially is with a span of 1641mm by 600 wide with only a side and rear support how much weight could that 20mm stone take? The red in below pic [] Not much at all!! It should have a steal support at the front running from cabinet to cabinet or a panel to the floor between appliances. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 15May 04, 2015 7:57 pm What is the max overhang for 20mm Caeserstone? Our kitchen Island is going to have ~300mm unsupported overhang where the bar stools will live according to the plans. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 16May 04, 2015 9:07 pm ![]() What is the max overhang for 20mm Caeserstone? Our kitchen Island is going to have ~300mm unsupported overhang where the bar stools will live according to the plans. There seems to be conflicting information around about this. Older manuals had listed 300mm as the maximum unsupported overhang, but some data now says 200mm. It seems that some stonemasons are still happy to go out to 300, but some won't. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 17May 05, 2015 9:25 am ![]() Hi ceaserstoneau firstly thanks for all the advise has been most helpful. Question I have is in regards to your infographic about the cm2 to kg weight. What is this ratio? Reason I ask is we have a laundry bench in 20mm ceaserstone that spans a large distance with no additional support apart from a bead of 25mm wood screwed to the wall on one side and back then other end the stone is supported by cabinetry. There is a clear space of no additional support of approx 1641mm So my question essentially is with a span of 1641mm by 600 wide with only a side and rear support how much weight could that 20mm stone take? The red in below pic http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/njectme/ebay%20fittings/C35EBC18-A3CD-4E32-BA37-334E402F44C2_zpshjrjtnnr.png The ratio represents the flexural strength of the stone, performed according to DIN 52112 standard testing. Essentially it indicates how much pressure the surface can take over a certain span before it fails, however this test is simply for comparisons sake and not something that applies to installation and load bearing capabilities. We recommend that the stone is supported at a minimum of 600mm intervals, however in the case of underbench laundry appliances you would simply need to add a vertical support between the appliances, and perimeter support rails front and rear where possible. Also we would prefer to see an end panel that runs to the floor to support the stone at the wall rather than a bead fixed to the wall. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ ![]() What is the max overhang for 20mm Caeserstone? Our kitchen Island is going to have ~300mm unsupported overhang where the bar stools will live according to the plans. The max overhang is 300mm for 20mm Caesarstone, 400mm for 30mm Caesarstone and 100mm for 13mm Caesarstone. So your breakfast bar is perfectly within guidelines. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 18May 06, 2015 3:55 pm I have both in my Kitchen. My island is Marble. My hotplate wall and pantry is Caesarstone. The Caesarstone (Raven) still looks as good as it did when installed 2 years ago. This bench cops the most prep/heavy usage. The marble is looking mediocre. I have an oil stain to the left of the sink, and a too many wines chip at the end. However, I dont regret the decision on either. If I had my time again, I would choose the same. The selection process on the island was purely aesthetics One day, Stone manufacturers will be able to offer the aesthetics of a real marble/granite. They are certainly on their way, but not quite there imo. Quality is like buying oats. If you want good,fresh oats,you'll pay a fair price. However,if you can be satisfied with the oats that have already been through the horse, that comes a little cheaper. Re: Living with granite and caesaerstone after real experien 20May 16, 2015 11:07 am My friend is very wary of granite becos he says it emits a gas called radon which is toxic. Any comments? 0 24047 ![]() I'd try posting it on airtasker. I am sure you will find someone willing do take them for a couple of hundred $ 1 8771 ![]() Hi Kayne I am building with Rivergum at the moment. 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