Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Dec 16, 2014 10:31 am We are in early stages of plan for our custom home. I had always wanted a WIP but with our plan the way it is, that may be a compromise area. It would exceed budget. Would you build without it? For context the house is 3BED, 219sqm. So not ridiculously large but space where we need it. Heart of the home and all of that. The kitchen is quite large, 4.2 x 5.8 with two wall facing benches so I think there is room for a large full heigh, double or triple (?) width cabinetry for a pantry instea, perhaps with a small step in if it is deep enough. Here is our concept of that area. The solid wall immediately behind the kitchen is the front of the house essentially. The stairs go down to the garage (probably put a dwarf wall here instead of railing). In the hallway beside (not shown) there are stairs to an upstairs area (living room). So we can't really go into that space. My thought is to put the sink on the left bench, stove on rear benchtop in middle, cabinets beside. Fridge.. maybe they thought off to the right side tucked away a bit. http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/leksola/kitchen_living.jpg Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 2Dec 16, 2014 12:16 pm Our Interior Designer deliberately moved us away from a walk in pantry - as being quite a large waste of space and talked us into having our pantry spread around the kitchen into different areas - ie herbs and spices near the over and vegemite etc near the toast area <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62083">viewtopic.php?t=62083</a><!-- l --> Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 3Dec 16, 2014 12:59 pm Thanks for your reply. One thought is not to have things 'scattered' but I can understand in terms of a work triangle that can make some sense. It is definitely another way of looking at it. I am mostly concerned about not having enough space to store bulky items as I like to cook. I've seen some nice options with some of the bench shuttered off for appliances etc tho. What sort of depth would you need for a slight 'step in'. I'm not tall, so don't want to rely on high shelves to access items. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 4Dec 16, 2014 11:41 pm I don't have a WIP. I'm not a big fan of having what looks like an internal door or wardrobe door in the kitchen area. My pantry is large and built into around one wall of kitchen. I agree that a WIP can be lost space and given you don't spend much time reaching into and out of a pantry I think you're safe to go without. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 5Dec 17, 2014 11:19 am I can see why a wip would be a waste of space now thinking about it . But I guess its what you what to put in it . I have put another fridge in mine as I have a big family and also put my big cooking items on the top .rice cookers , slow cookers etc . Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 6Dec 19, 2014 5:45 am Yes I will also need a good plan for appliances with no WIP. Our plan has a large kitchen (4.3 x 5. appx but doesn't suit a walk in. Beazley your pantry sounds interesting is it large with double doors? Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 7Dec 19, 2014 6:35 am Quite a few people I know have WIP's, the ones that cook a lot have all their appliances and food stored in there etc as you would expect and just drag them out to the kitchen to use and love them. The people that have WIP's and aren't big cooks just use them for extra storage space for other household stuff. I don't think you can have too much storage. If you are not going to have one then a pantry cupboard is a good alternative but I'd have a separate appliance cupboard that is deep. The food pantry shelves shouldn't be any deeper than two cans deep. I've lived in a few places that had deep pantry cupboards and stuff gets lost down the back. Stewie Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 8Dec 22, 2014 5:27 am Thanks stewie good point and one worth noting. No need to have decade old pickles at the back of the pantry as they have never been found. I think I will go with that with space underneath the bottom shelf for bulkier food items, maybe with a wire basket for larger food items like potatoes and colour so it's off the floor. I do cook a lot but my plan.. Famous last words is not to accumulate a lot of crap. I don't like clutter. We will need room for a coffee machine, given how much hubby will probably spend on it that will probably be nice enough to stay on the bench , a thermomix (my indulgence!) and a mix master. Kettle and toaster I'm not too fussed about putting them away all the time. I may go for a couple of old fashioned appliance hutches/cubbies with power points inside so they don't need to get moved all the time. I have also Seen a friend do full length bifold along one small part of the bench, inside she has shelves for common items such as bread and coffee and her daily appliances. Hard to explain but looks great. I think I will reserve a drawer near the stove for my spices. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 9Dec 22, 2014 9:10 am Appliance cupboards seem to get a bad wrap and are seen to be a bit old fashioned but they do serve a purpose. I've seen a few people with newer trendier kitchens that have to get their electric jug and toaster out of their WIP's to use them and put them away again when they're finished, which keeps your kitchen bench nice and neat but kinda seems counter-productive to me. I am not a fan of full-on butlers pantries either where you basically have a second kitchen. Any of the above bench pantries we have installed in the past were usually set back from the front of the bench 150mm or so to allow for larger items like breakfast cereal boxes etc and the usual jug & kettle with shelves above 300mm in depth. Then there are full height pantry cupboards with pull out baskets and shelves below bench height as you mention. There are so many variations. Stewie Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 10Dec 22, 2014 3:39 pm Agreed they may be seen as a bit old fashioned but that's all in what cabinetry you use. Provided the slide mechanism is decent I think they are good. Practicality must come first over form. Anyway when we get to that stage I am sure I will come to a decision. Have investigated a builder today who has their own in house cabinet maker for kitchens and laundry etc not a subbie if you want to use him you can. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 11Dec 22, 2014 3:55 pm Quote: Have investigated a builder today who has their own in house cabinet maker for kitchens and laundry etc not a subbie if you want to use him you can. I'll be building my own. I'm a carpenter-joiner by trade. Stewie Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 12Dec 22, 2014 4:57 pm Leksie5000 Yes I will also need a good plan for appliances with no WIP. Our plan has a large kitchen (4.3 x 5. appx but doesn't suit a walk in. Beazley your pantry sounds interesting is it large with double doors? Hi, its two doors below bench height and two very tall ones above bench height. Just goes with flow of kitchen. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 13Dec 24, 2014 12:03 am We have a old fashion appliance cupboard lol . We put our toaster kettle in it . We have made our kitchen a u shape so we kinda wanted to fill that corner . So we have over heads a microwave recess ( which will one day be a in built one ) then the appliance cupboard at the bottom. My friend has to long bi folded doors . It works good for me . Not everyone's cup of tea though . Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 14Dec 24, 2014 12:23 am A Pull out pantry could solve your space dilemma. Everything you have in there is easily seen and accessed, rather things getting lost at the back shelves like Lexies' mouldy pickles! For the same reason, they are great when you need to write your shopping list- you can tell straight away what you do and don't have. And a friend who has one says they never miss their WIP and it stores all they need for their young family. Worth considering. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 15Dec 24, 2014 5:30 pm Good idea too trees changer. One builder we are using has an in-house cabinet maker whom you can choose to use, I saw an example of not entirely pull out but one side. It did look handy. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 16Dec 24, 2014 5:32 pm Stewie D Quote: Have investigated a builder today who has their own in house cabinet maker for kitchens and laundry etc not a subbie if you want to use him you can. I'll be building my own. I'm a carpenter-joiner by trade. Stewie I do make a mean lemon meringue.. Or butterscotch pudding! Kitchen for a pie? Ah, makes sense I had wondered your trade. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 17Dec 25, 2014 5:50 pm maybe so the island is 270cm long, distance to window cabinets 120cm, ca 135cm to tall cabinets. The fridge side is ca 550cm long. If you want more detail, pls email. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/URL] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 18Dec 26, 2014 6:06 pm Thanks is much Evelin! I will message you for email address. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 19Dec 29, 2014 7:31 am Treeseachanger A Pull out pantry could solve your space dilemma. Everything you have in there is easily seen and accessed, rather things getting lost at the back shelves like Lexies' mouldy pickles! For the same reason, they are great when you need to write your shopping list- you can tell straight away what you do and don't have. And a friend who has one says they never miss their WIP and it stores all they need for their young family. Worth considering. I concur, pull out pantry/light weigh cookware if I have a choice. Re: Kitchen plan - no WIP? 20Jan 13, 2015 11:55 am Leksie5000 Yes I will also need a good plan for appliances with no WIP. Our plan has a large kitchen (4.3 x 5. appx but doesn't suit a walk in. Beazley your pantry sounds interesting is it large with double doors? Hi, sorry I'm not sure I ever responded. Pantry is basically two tall doors (28c high to the bulkhead) which look the same as my white kitchen cabinets. 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