Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 May 21, 2008 5:47 pm Hopefully this question isn't too odd, but what I want to have done is to get built-in square shelves put into the outer wall (non-kitchen side) of a breakfast bar.
In the inner wall (kitchen side) of the bar is the dishwasher and kitchen cupboards. I'm not sure how deep these go into that wall, but I guess if they're too far back, then building shelves into the wall is not a possibility, right? We just want some square shelves for CD storage. Anyone know anything about this or ever done anything similar? How the hell did I become a senior member!? I know nothing! Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 2May 21, 2008 8:14 pm Do you mean the in the front of your breakfast bar?
This is easily done, but you will have to have a wider bench top than normal to pull it off. Are you planning on having bar stools in front of the shelves? Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 3May 21, 2008 8:24 pm Hey there! Thanks for replying.
No, we're not planning on putting any stools there. We won't be using it to actually eat at. We have a large dining table in another area for that purpose. We just want more storage for our CDs and right now the 2-3 CD shelves we have won't fit anywhere in our new apartment and we had the idea to place them under the bar, but then I thought this might look terrible because they wouldn't sit right up against the bar, they're a different colour (the bar wall is white and the shelves are brown), and they wouldn't be the perfect height, and so on... Anyway, thanks again!! How the hell did I become a senior member!? I know nothing! Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 4May 21, 2008 8:31 pm You can get that done very easily….ask around at some kitchen or cabinet makers.
If you’re not putting stools there, then you can make it a real feature!!! Sounds great, I’m getting lots of ideas just replying to your post! Get whoever you choose to do it to design something for you. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 5May 22, 2008 10:49 am Yay! How exciting! I was really worried it wouldn’t be possible. I am DEFINITELY getting it done now. I wonder how much it’d cost…despite the fact I know nothing about any of this stuff (yet), I can’t see it being over $500 at the absolute most. How the hell did I become a senior member!? I know nothing! Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 6May 22, 2008 11:22 am Pricing will depend a lot on how you want the shelves to be fabricated.
As a comparison, I just worked out how much it would cost to supply (unassembled) a wine rack in a dark polytec colourboard, 721mm High, 200mm Deep and 2000mm wide; at these dimensions you would be looking at around $2K. The reason I chose a wine rack comparison is that this design is completely surrounded by the same material as the shelves are made from, including a matching dark back. The cavities in the rack are 150mm x 150mm x 200mm which is a good size for stacking C.D.s. Of course there are a lot of different ways to provide a solution for your needs and my example is just one option...I suppose my point is that there is possibly a bit more work and material required in this sort of job than may be initially expected. Cheers, Earl Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 7May 23, 2008 4:26 pm Ok, here's a photo of the breakfast bar wall in question...
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What do you think Earl???? Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 9May 24, 2008 11:00 am Absolutely.
Dark/Wood patterned melamine was what I used to draft my estimate. From the looks of it you have about 2500mm at maybe 1200mm high? It really depends on how much you want to go into the work. As grace said that she wanted a dark back to the unit(s) I went for a basic open cabinet with lots of shelves and verticals - sides on the cabinet to hold the shelves up and verticals to provide support and division along the spans. You would be suprised how much material can go into this sort of job. I recently made four 1100mm x 1000mm book cases for at home out of a "Jarrah" finish melamine from Polytec. They are basically open boxes 200mm deep with two shelves - If I were to get these made for a client (unassembled) they would cost about $350 each - say $1500 all up with legs and assembly hardware. Once again, design is the big factor. If you just wanted to hang the shelves with brackets off the back of the peninsula there would be a lot less material and labour involved, but the look might not be as nice. I suppose another thing to think about is if the shelves are spaced only slightly larger than a C.D. and all of the shelves are full then the background colour would not be very visible and thus less important. Cheers, Earl ETA: Whoops...just realised that the dark colour comment was about the existing shelves, not the desired new ones. Doesn't really change much though in that most variations in COLOURED melamine are around the same price - might not need the back plate though which can save a fair bit on this job. Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 10May 24, 2008 7:12 pm Thanks for that, it's very much appreciated!
No, I don't want any sort of back colour. I actually want it all to stay white. It'd set off the darker/varied colours of the CD spines, you know? I don't mind how far back into the bar the shelves would go...I mean, obviously the top is really narrow but the lower parts once the main part of the bar begins is a lot wider...I guess just a bit deeper than a CD is, but not a lot. We don't need a heap of excess space. Also, I sort of want squares. My partner wants longer shelves (like 3 separate long shelves going along each level of the bar...maybe 8 or so shelves going from top to bottom and 3 across) but I want the 8 or so going from top to bottom but maybe 6 across...so they're more square-shaped as opposed to long. You wouldn't happen to have any recommendations for cabinet makers on the Gold Coast, would you? lol How the hell did I become a senior member!? I know nothing! Re: is it possible to build shelves into a breakfast bar wall? 11May 24, 2008 7:25 pm I think you could do this fairly cheaply……no back on the unit, use the back of the bar as the back of the unit.
So you are now just looking for the shelving…….whichever way you both decide to go. It’s fairly long you could have a mix of both, that would make it look more interesting. Can’t help you with the cabinet maker……I would also ask at a small kitchen supplier, they might do it for you as well. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Basically. If the shelves are fixed then they will be screwed in just the same as the rest of the carcass. To re move the screws you need to remove that section of… 3 5200 I use Tramex moisture meter and it will tell me instantly if the wall is cement sheet or plaster or masonite but most people dont have the equipment. 5 7086 Please suggest a solid quality swivel bar towel holder in bathrooms & bedrooms from… 0 3121 |