Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Feb 13, 2013 3:34 pm We have had our benchtops installed (Essastone)... If anyone asks what the colour is all they have to do is look underneath as it is emblazoned everywhere in big black letters!! It is also white and chalky where it hasn't been polished...wondering if it can be sealed with something to prevent it rubbing on clothing? Curious to find out whether this is perfectly normal practice or our builder/cabinetmaker cutting corners.. Obviously I wouldn't expect the underside to be polished but would prefer not to have the black writing everywhere...Is is able to be removed somehow?.. Also, should the polished top and fascia extend slightly to the front of the cabinet doors? I haven't checked ours yet (thought of it when I woke up in the middle of the night as you do! lol) Just thinking you wouldn't expect it to just finish at the right angle.. Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 2Feb 13, 2013 4:33 pm Do you have a picture?? What thickness are your tops? My stone supplied makes sure that that any overhangs are fully polished. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 3Feb 13, 2013 4:54 pm My caesarstone slabs have some sort of batch numbers machine printed on the underside. Not sure how this is an issue though, you need to open a drawer and stick your head in it to see underneath. Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 4Feb 13, 2013 5:51 pm Quote: Do you have a picture?? What thickness are your tops? No haven't got a photo...will do next time I can get in the house (didn't think at the time as SS said it was normal).. Tops are 30mm Quote: Not sure how this is an issue though, you need to open a drawer and stick your head in it to see underneath. Its under our overhang on the breakfast bar so may possibly be noticeable depending on seating. Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 5Feb 13, 2013 6:08 pm oneness Quote: . Its under our overhang on the breakfast bar so may possibly be noticeable depending on seating. They should have polished it. You might have still seen the brand but it would look alot better! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 7Feb 13, 2013 6:43 pm Hey CuttingEdge is it something that can be done by a layperson? They are really big black letters and it is chalky so would like to fade them somehow if the builder wont do it...I do think perhaps its a case of them saving money and cutting corners, but I will check... Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 8Feb 13, 2013 7:25 pm All overhang should be polished underneath. At the very least it should be smooth to touch (up to a hone or semi polish) This removes the black writing. Chalky-ness means they haven't cleaned properly. It is the dust created during fabrication that you are feeling. To remove: use a vacuum with a carpet attachment on the underside of the bench. All these things aren't huge problems, just examples of tardiness. Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 9Feb 14, 2013 7:02 pm oneness Also, should the polished top and fascia extend slightly to the front of the cabinet doors? I haven't checked ours yet (thought of it when I woke up in the middle of the night as you do! lol) Just thinking you wouldn't expect it to just finish at the right angle.. I wouldn't want it flash with the door for practical reasons. I don't want breadcrumbs and the likes to end up in my drawers. Some people like it flash, especially with handleless doors it creates a more modern look ("clean lines approach"). Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 10Feb 14, 2013 7:45 pm Quote: I wouldn't want it flash with the door for practical reasons. I don't want breadcrumbs and the likes to end up in my drawers. Doh! I dont think I explained myself properly...I meant should the polished area of stone extend under the benchtop or be left unpolished eg my current laminex squareform top curves underneath a couple of inches rather than there being bare chipboard/mdf... Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 11Feb 15, 2013 6:23 am Evelin oneness Also, should the polished top and fascia extend slightly to the front of the cabinet doors? I haven't checked ours yet (thought of it when I woke up in the middle of the night as you do! lol) Just thinking you wouldn't expect it to just finish at the right angle.. I wouldn't want it flash with the door for practical reasons. I don't want breadcrumbs and the likes to end up in my drawers. Some people like it flash, especially with handleless doors it creates a more modern look ("clean lines approach"). It should be polished under all overhangs. I agree bench tops should never be flush either! I know its a modern look but when water is spilt on a bench top it actually runs down the edge and then 10-15mm back under the top before dropping off. With a flush bench top you end up with damage to the top edge of your doors and drawers and water in you cabinets. There should always be a 20mm overhang. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 13Feb 15, 2013 2:56 pm My brother recently built through Ausbuild and had a casearstone benchtop with waterfall ends. The batch code etc etc was written on the sides (inside of the waterfalls ends where the bench stools go so you saw them very visibly.) He just mentioned it to Ausbuild and they came back and removed them (not sure how), so yes the printing should definately not be visible!! Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 14Feb 15, 2013 3:37 pm Evelin but this is the trend and I love the look. It would look terrible to have the worktop stand over [] Doenst make it practicle or right! Look at the nice groove on the top edge of the drawers that funnels water into the drawers!!! 20mm is not much at all. But it does allow the water to fall harmlessly to the floor! When I do kitchen as in the photos above I give to warrenty on the cabinets or doors for water/moisture damage. There is a fine line between what is practicle and what looks good. A well designed kitchen will take both into account. I have already had quite a few enquirys by people want there doors fixed because the top edge has been damaged by water. I did warn them about the issues of flush tops and they asked me to install them anyway. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 15Feb 15, 2013 3:37 pm Quote: but this is the trend ah ha but trend doesn't always necessarily mean practical Belandchris, thanks for your input I think I shall definitely mention it when I see SS next Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 16Feb 15, 2013 3:39 pm oneness Hey CuttingEdge is it something that can be done by a layperson? ... I dont really think so unless you have a polisher and the correct pads and polishing compound. I would stand your ground and tell them that you wont accept it. Go to a few display homes and take photos on the undersides of the overhangs as evidence! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 17Feb 15, 2013 3:42 pm Thanks CEK, I think I will. Is it an expensive thing to get done? Do you think that's why they haven't bothered! Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 18Feb 16, 2013 5:49 am oneness Thanks CEK, I think I will. Is it an expensive thing to get done? Do you think that's why they haven't bothered! Not really. In the factory during production it wouldnt take that long with the correct tools. Its just plain lazy or cost cutting! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 19Feb 17, 2013 5:26 pm Wasn't able to get inside to get a proper pic, but took this through the window... From what I can see it doesn't even look like the polishing extends under the overhang even just a little bit!! Thoughts??!! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28851592/SAM_0021.jpg Slab Poured 30/05/12 Lower Floor Plate High 20/08/12 Upper Floor & Wall Framing 30/08/12 Roof 14/09/12 Lock-Up 13/12/12 Yee haaaaa WE ARE IN & I HAVE A NEW IPHONE Re: Quality of underside finish to Essastone breakfast bar? 20Feb 17, 2013 6:27 pm oneness Wasn't able to get inside to get a proper pic, but took this through the window... From what I can see it doesn't even look like the polishing extends under the overhang even just a little bit!! Thoughts??!! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28851592/SAM_0021.jpg Not a chance on earth I'd accept that. If it were plain and unfinished I might let it slip past but with big black writing emblazoned across it I wouldn't be able to live with it. Speak to your site supervisor, and if that doesn't help escalate through your builder. If that doesn't help contact the manufacturer directly. But don't accept it or it will bug you forever. I'm having 40mm essastone benches put in and will definitely be checking this sort of thing having read this thread. HD I'm building a new house. First time using stone The stone I've picked is Essastone Chalkstone. 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