Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Jan 18, 2013 10:20 pm Hello there everyone.
We built, finished three years ago. We have a walk-in-pantry, approx 2.9m long x 1.35m wide. We had the standard builder fitout of four linen-cupboard-style shelves (in a u-shape), each approximately 460mm deep. I'm just finding that my pantry is a little overbearing, and the stuff just seems to get lost on the shelves (they're too deep). So I'm doing a re-design. I've done a bit of research on materials, and thought I'd share my findings (and possibly even post some piccies, if I ever actually get round to doing the work. . . read on! Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 2Jan 18, 2013 10:27 pm Ok. . . so first of all, I tried the Bunnings website. I'd seen something which caught my eye in Grumblebum's house. She has narrow cupboard carcasses in her base cupboards, perfect for chopping boards and baking trays (GB, hope you don't mind me posting your photo here, hopefully you'll never find out): While this seems to be a very nice custom-fitout, I was very excited to find the following on the Bunnings website: DIY "Infill" cabinets (both base and wall variety, in 150mm and 200mm widths) for approximately $40 - $50 each. Bargain! Perfect for cookbooks, baking trays and chopping boards. . . Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 3Jan 18, 2013 10:48 pm So. . . the major problem with my pantry is the depth of the shelves.
Due to budgetary constraints (i.e. no cash), I've decided to leave the 2 bottom shelves almost as they are. Actually, not quite. I'm going to whip off the right hand side of the u-shape and put an ikea Billy bookcase on that wall instead: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ $69. . . bargain! Just look at all that shelf-space! 7x 28mm shelves instead of my 4 that are too deep! Moving swiftly on. . . I would like to replace the leftover bottom 2 linen-style shelves with nifty base cabinets, but alas, the budget says no. So I shall be ripping out the top two shelves only, and replacing them with some of the Bunnings infill cabinets (the wall-cabinets are 300mm deep I think. . . not perfect for my baking trays and chopping boards, as I'm sure some will be poking out a bit. . . but they'll do. ..). . . and I'm still looking for some suitable (and suitably cheap) carcasses which are approximately 200mm deep for the rest of the wall space. . . for storing cans of food, flour, small containers and the like. I'd like these shelves to have adjustable heights and for there to be lots of shelves, so the tin cans don't have to be stacked. I've looked, but I don't seem to be able to find anything suitable, so I'm considering buying pine DAR, some white water based enamel paint and some white backing board and making them myself. I made the biggest spice rack on earth, so anything is possible: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 4Jan 18, 2013 10:54 pm Then I stumbled upon these: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Ikea wall cabinets. . . 400mm wide for $29, 800mm wide (2-door) for only $45! Shall I say it again? Bargain! While I don't want cabinets with doors for the pantry (and they're much too deep for me. .. 350mm), I am seriously considering putting these in the laundry, on the wall. We have stipple-seal laminate in the laundry (a browny colour), but everybody is mixing up their top and bottom cupboard colours nowadays anyway. . . maybe now I'll be trendy! One 40mm cabinet, $29, one 80mm cabinet, $45. . . two sets of two handles (to match the existing handles, $28. Total cost = $102. . . dare I say it again. . . BARGAIN! Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 5Jan 18, 2013 11:02 pm And finally, ladies and gentlemen. . . I have these: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Ikea "Faktum" wall cabinet carcasses. This size is 300W x 350D x 700H and is only $15. Super bargain! Shelves are sold separately ($5 for two shelves for this size). The carcasses are available in either 700 or 920mm high, in widths of 300, 400, 500, 600 or 800mm. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 6Jan 18, 2013 11:06 pm Although these wall cabinets are too deep for me, I just wondered if I could inspire anyone else to research doing a cheap DIY fitout on theirpantry, if you don't want to go with the builder's "4-shelf standard", and you think that your pantry deserves just that little bit more.. There are some bargains to be had out there, and these cupboards aren't difficult to put together. Show me your DIY pantries! And I might show you mine (but not too soon, as I have to pull my finger out first. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 7Jan 18, 2013 11:08 pm Thanks for the inspiration! While we don't have a walk in pantry I think some of these things could work for our standard pantry, when we have it! Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 8Jan 18, 2013 11:28 pm Fmac, thanks and welcome! I was just so stoked to find cheap offerings that I wanted to share it with everyone. I hope you have fun with your pantry fit out. Don't settle for anything less than the storage of your dreams. I love storage! Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 9Jan 19, 2013 5:27 am Ha Ha! Found you. The old boy starts work at 0345 so quite often I find myself on the internet forums at some ungodly hour. Our first build had a little pantry that I had fitted out and it was soon overflowing and you had to get down on your hands and knees to get stuff from the back corner. I vowed that the next pantry/kitchen would have no corners and there would be enough space for everything to fit neatly. So far so good. When I was researching for this build I read somewhere to have your pantry shelves only 300 deep so you can’t put too much on them which lets you find things a lot quicker. Works for me and that bookcase will be excellent. The dimensions of the slots are 115 wide by 450 deep. Would you be able to fit the deeper infill cupboards somewhere in your pantry? You could cut them down a bit or maybe put a false wall in them so the stuff doesn’t go in too far (that’s what I had done where my recipe books are). Also noticed Bunnings have reasonably priced cabinets with drawers, a bit of paint and a handle would be fine for the pantry, none of my pantry drawers have doors on them. Regards, Grumbles Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 10Jan 19, 2013 5:34 am great ideas and something that i would also like to do with our pantry. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 11Jan 19, 2013 5:48 am Have you seen the websites & blogs where people "hack" ikea furniture & modify it to suit certain rooms. Just google Ikea Hackers. It's pretty amazing! Built the Seaview 36 with Rawson Homes - Read about it on my blog http://lamaisondemorgan.blogspot.com.au/ Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 12Jan 19, 2013 8:40 am GB. . . or should I call you "Sherlock". . . I've had 'pantry envy' ever since I saw your photos. Back when we built (in the dark ages), pantries looked like linen cupboards, not kitchens. I did try to get the builder to make the two high shelves 200mm deep, but he forgot to tell the carpenters. I'm glad he didn't anyway, as then I might've 'made do', now I'm so peeved with it that I'm going to town. I hate corners too, yet I ended up with two in the pantry and two in the kitchen. Bugger! I agree with having the shelves only 300 deep. Really, what are we going to put in there that's deeper than that anyway? I do like the idea of having false backs.. . as I'm hoping to put in a 500mm benchtop . . . Now you've got me wondering whether I should pull out the whole lot and start again. .. maybe I could use wall-carcasses on the bottom? Then I could shove in some of the base cabinet infills for baking trays on the bottom, and have cookbooks and shorter chopping boards on top? On the benchtop. . . I'm undecided whether to get laminate or timber at the mo. . . I just bought a table saw, and I'm not sure how tidy a cut I can make on the laminate. . . I don't mind chips in the back of laminate cabinets, but I don't really want to chip or crack a laminate bennchtop. I've seen some quite nice slabs of 2200 x 600 x 26mm Acacia timber at Bunnings, $99 each. . . I'd only need two of them to do the whole benchtop, and I'm thinking that the timber will be a tad kinder to me when I cut it. I think I like the country-style of the timber too, and as it's not in the main kitchen, I wouldn't mind too much if it got stained. By the way. . . I think we have the same bread-maker Quantum Smartbake? I don't think my pantry's wide enough to have drawers. I'm happier having everything on display in there, I think. By modding the pantry, I'm going to be freeing up three good-sized drawers in the kitchen anyway (moving out those chopping boards and baking trays), so I'll be able to sort out my mess of a utensil drawer. I do agree though, that you don't need fancy pants drawer and door fronts in the pantry though. . . I'll be real happy with melamine carcasses. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 13Jan 19, 2013 8:48 am Hi 1rocky! This is what I was thinking. . . if there are people out there, like you, who are in the first stages of building, maybe you'll be inspired to take on your own pantry fitout. At least, with the amount of DIY cabinets that are available, it's easy to price things up for yourself and decide whether it's actually going to be cheaper to "do it yourself". (Sometimes, it's just not!) We did our wardrobe fitout ourselves. . . I had laminate panels made to order for the sides, and shelves, bought drawers in flatpack, rails and other fittings from Bunnings. In hindsight I probably could have cut all of the laminate to size myself, and saved a bit (the guy that did it for us did a pretty rough job). I suppose you live and learn. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 14Jan 19, 2013 8:52 am smorgzzz. . . I love you! I do recall hearing of this Ikea Hackers thing before. . . thank you so much for telling us! I'm off there right now, to see what I can find. Actually, I was planning on creating a wall of shelving in the study at some point, using Ikea furniture. . I was hoping to have drawers or cupboards along the bottom, then shelves on top, gyprock the walls around it and continue the skirtings and cornice to make it look like it's built-in. But that's a rather large project for another day, methinks. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 15Jan 19, 2013 8:54 am Hi jodge. I'm subscribing. I have been trying to decide what to do with our pantry. The builder drew up ours with 450 deep shelves spaced at 400 (except for bottom shelf which is 500off the floor). We also have a corner. I never thought pantry shelves could be too deep - was more worried about them not being high enough. I now have more things to worry about Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 16Jan 19, 2013 9:34 am hi and thanks jodge seeing the kitchen guys on monday and after going through this thread have great ideas especially the 300mm wide shelves. already deciding to have the skinny shelves for the lower area of the bench in the pantry and having drawers as well still working out a few ideas and also going on the bunnings site . another idea is to have the tea towel cupboard area too. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 17Jan 19, 2013 9:36 am Welcome aboard Smithieswife. . . Time to buy a table saw? I've just been looking at using Faktum wall cabinets (only 350mm deep): http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/50175525/ with Rationell shelves (made for the Faktum wall cabinets): http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/40177271/ I'm thinking of just doing a row of them. . . pulling them out from the wall by about 130mm, and plonking a benchtop on top. A 2.4m wall of base shelves like this would cost $160 if you used 8x300mm cabinet with 2 shelves each, and $300 if you use 3x800mm cabinets with 2 shelves each (there are sizes available in between, the price per lineal metre seems to go up, with the bigger cabinets. . . not sure why). Of course you'd still have to put in a base, kickboard and worktop, but that seems pretty reasonable to me! Ikea sell a variety of worktops: http://www.ikea.com/au/en/search/?query=worktop. Looks like you'd be able to get a 2.4m(ish) for about $100 (if you open a worktop link, there are a couple of size choices for most of them). I'm liking the look of the Fyndig worktop (below), $35 for 1.26m, $55 for 2.2m. Have to be a bit nifty with that table saw though. I've heard that if you put tape on the faces of the laminate, they won't crack when you saw them (not sure what kind of tape though, must google). . . I think I'll be testing this on some off-cuts before attacking a worktop. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 18Jan 19, 2013 9:39 am Hello again rocky1. It really is good to think of everything that you'll need to store before deciding on kitchen and pantry ideas. Because I'm anal, I make spreadsheets for everything, and draw it all up in CAD. I've created some 3d models of the pantry actually, might take some time tonight to put up some pics. Only now I'm completely on a different tack (thanks GB!) I think I'm gonna rip out the whole thing and start again! (Which means the project will take even longer to get off the ground. We have our tea towels in a deep drawer in the kitchen, for easy access. 300mm cupboards. . .are you talking about GB's cupboards for chopping boards? Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 19Jan 19, 2013 10:03 am Hey smithieswife, On the topic of the wall cupboards. . . I'm now thinking about hacking up some wall carcasses to make them about 200mm deep, and so I can have lots of shelves. I'm thinking of having about a 300mm splashback (Ie. just the painted wall) before starting the wall cupboards. I figure that having a lower splashback means that I can fit in more shelves. 200mm will fit two tin cans deep, or a container of flour (haven't done proper measurements yet, so this may become 190 or 180). I want the tin can shelves to be about 150mm high, no more stacking of cans! Yeah! But I suppose most of these cabinets have lots of shelf holes, so you can put as many in as you want. Re: DIY Pantry Fitout 20Jan 19, 2013 10:37 am I see questions in this forum about kitchen materials and people advising not to use melamine because it is sh!t and I am amazed. All my drawers and doors in the kitchen as well as the pantry shelving are melamine and because I have drawers with no doors in the pantry the carcasses for them are as well. When you stand behind the island and the pantry door is open you can see all of the kitchen and pantry benches along the side wall. I really had to have the same products for the bench and splashback, having something in the pantry similar would have looked yuk. So we had to make choices and it was caesarstone over 2 pac. Can’t say I am disappointed as we both love our “sh!tty” old melamine kitchen and don’t want any couple who can only afford the same to think they are missing out. Spot on with the bread maker. Regards, Grumbles Do you really want to accommodate the window? What is on the outside of the window? 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