Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Nov 21, 2012 4:48 pm So hoping someone can explain something for me. I am in the process of getting quotes for new kitchen. One place has given a price for a pre-finish door and a Polytec vinyl door. What's the difference in the finish? and quality, what is best? Hope I have explained this properly Re: Door Materials 2Nov 21, 2012 5:01 pm Both doors are actually prefinished. We need more info on the first door. I am assuming its a Laminex coloured melamine style door?? I personally would never put a vinyl door in a kitchen. Have been so many problems over the years with them. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 3Nov 21, 2012 6:29 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens Both doors are actually prefinished. We need more info on the first door. I am assuming its a Laminex coloured melamine style door?? I personally would never put a vinyl door in a kitchen. Have been so many problems over the years with them. Yes I think it is melamine. What are the problems with vinyl? and what are other options? Re: Door Materials 4Nov 22, 2012 7:12 am dot77 CuttingEdgeKitchens Both doors are actually prefinished. We need more info on the first door. I am assuming its a Laminex coloured melamine style door?? I personally would never put a vinyl door in a kitchen. Have been so many problems over the years with them. Yes I think it is melamine. What are the problems with vinyl? and what are other options? Google vinyl and you will see 1000s of people with problems. Vinyl suffers badly around heat like ovens, toasters, kettles and cooktops. The heat reacts with the vinyl and glue and can make it shrink and bubble. I have seen kitchens where every door has the centre of the vinyl lifting. You also could use the new gloss melamines they are quite good. Then there is 2pac(polyurethane) which is a bit more expensive than vinyl but alot better! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 5Dec 17, 2012 5:37 pm Be very careful with vinyl doors. I have been to countless kitchens where the vinyl has de-laminated from the door substrate after 8-10 years. Problem areas are...
Doors / panels either side of the oven (make sure heat shields are fitted) Doors / panels above toasters and kettles Doors / panels either side of rangehood above the cooktop (use a rangehood larger than the cooktop) Re: Door Materials 6Dec 18, 2012 11:57 am I recently got an investment property and its vinyl kitchen doors and end panels around the cooktop were all peeling off and melted. It's only 10 yrs old and it was a display home before! I eventually replaced the doors and end panels with stainless steel doors before my tenants moved in. Before: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ After: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Door Materials 7Dec 26, 2012 3:53 pm I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. Re: Door Materials 8Dec 26, 2012 4:44 pm lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. What are you talking about? Vinyl doors have an MDF substrate with vinyl heat pressed ontop. There is no galvanized steel. I actually think vinyl is the worst choice for kitchens! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 9Dec 26, 2012 4:56 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. What are you talking about? Vinyl doors have an MDF substrate with vinyl heat pressed ontop. There is no galvanized steel. I actually think vinyl is the worst choice for kitchens! Why did you said that vinyl is the worst choice? Re: Door Materials 10Dec 26, 2012 6:56 pm lesliemorris85 [! Why did you said that vinyl is the worst choice?[/quote] Why did you say that have a galvanized steel reinforced panel? Vinyl is the worst choice because it bubbles and shrinks around most heat sorces in kitchens. Just have a look at the pictures a few post above yours. This is actually quite common for vinyl doors! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 11Dec 27, 2012 2:52 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens lesliemorris85 [! Why did you said that vinyl is the worst choice? Why did you say that have a galvanized steel reinforced panel? Vinyl is the worst choice because it bubbles and shrinks around most heat sorces in kitchens. Just have a look at the pictures a few post above yours. This is actually quite common for vinyl doors![/quote] Okay if that's your opinion, no worries. Re: Door Materials 12Dec 27, 2012 3:20 pm lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. Please tell us more about these galvanized steel reinforced panels that you think are the best choice. Re: Door Materials 13Dec 27, 2012 3:27 pm renomart lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. Please tell us more about these galvanized steel reinforced panels that you think are the best choice. Check out this link sort of specifications for vinyl doors that galvanized steel reinforced panels : http://www.proviaproducts.com/architect ... nd-Details , hope that helps. Re: Door Materials 14Dec 27, 2012 4:48 pm lesliemorris85 renomart lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. Please tell us more about these galvanized steel reinforced panels that you think are the best choice. Check out this link sort of specifications for vinyl doors that galvanized steel reinforced panels : http://www.proviaproducts.com/architect ... nd-Details , hope that helps. Umm, do you realise this is a kitchen renovation forum?? That link is about patio doors. They wont fit on a kitchen! They are totally different and have nothing to do with kitchen cabinets. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 16Dec 27, 2012 9:00 pm lesliemorris85 renomart lesliemorris85 I prefer vinyl doors because it features galvanized steel reinforced panels that ensure rigidity and stable operation. I think it’s the best choice. Please tell us more about these galvanized steel reinforced panels that you think are the best choice. Check out this link sort of specifications for vinyl doors that galvanized steel reinforced panels : http://www.proviaproducts.com/architect ... nd-Details , hope that helps. The link you sent is for patio doors, they have nothing to do with kitchen vinyl doors in any way. Re: Door Materials 17Jan 21, 2013 12:17 pm bkm2009 The link you sent is for patio doors, they have nothing to do with kitchen vinyl doors in any way. Sorry about that , just search on google.com for more list of information. Re: Door Materials 18Jan 21, 2013 4:32 pm Hi all, In my experience, I wouldn't pick Vinyl for my own kitchen, however, I have done many kitchens with vinyl. Polytec is probably one of the better brands for Vinyl. As mentioned earlier, heat & sun will age the material. When it comes to peeling, the main cause is when the edges get caught on something (such as another door or drawer) this would be very typical on a kitchen with cheap hinges & drawer runners. As soon as the doors start to knock or bump into each other, they will slowly but surely cause the wrap to unstick, crack & peel. I'd pick a melamine over vinyl door any day. Polytec do a nice range of gloss melamine & even createc, which has the durability of PVC edging. Re: Door Materials 19Jan 23, 2013 7:14 am Totally agree Adam! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Door Materials 20Jan 24, 2013 9:07 am Opinions always seem to be divided on vinyl doors. I would personally have no problem using them in my kitchen. Vinyls have come a long way in the last ten years, and the days of bad brands of vinyl and glues seem to have almost dissapeared. But if you do have concerns, why not look outside the four common door styles (Melamine, paint, vinyl or laminate) and check out the likes of Ultraglaze, PET or createc? With some of these material you get a mirror finish without imperfections, a huge range of colours, easy to keep clean and very durable. Some manufacturers are now using lazer edges which means perfect edging with no glue line. Hope this helps With 25 years kitchen experience and a passion for what I do, I have joined this forum to offer advice or at least my opinion on all things relevant to kitchens. I was a cabinetmaker by trade and am now a senior manager of a kitchen company. That's a fantastic result! Happy you got it sorted out. cheers Simeon 6 8640 in the stormwater pit or the drain? Those dont look like theyd fit in the drain. Separately, the pits do get stuff in them during the course of the build. For the most… 1 7930 Black on light wood does look good. Not sure if it will be as long lasting as a steel finish? 6 6349 |