Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Sep 19, 2012 2:25 pm Hi Guys.. We are still at the very begining of our build, we requested from our builder to delete the dishwasher so we can get a better one after handover. But I want to be as prepared as possible.. We want to get a semi integrated dishwasher, looking at a few different dishwashers they all say they require dishwasher clearance of 600mm for width, but our builder is giving us 610mm which means we will end up with 5mm gap on either side... The idea is we wanted a seamless kitchen and have no gaps for crumbs or dirt to build up, plus for it to look good.. I dont know if this standard and there's a standard fix for it.. am i stressing over nothing.. Or do i need to get the builder to reduce the space for the dishwasher? HELP PLEASE.. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 2Sep 19, 2012 3:56 pm We have just had a semi intregrated installed (Miele) and I just measured our gap and its 600mm. The guy came to install the door and it was a couple of mms too wide o plus too short and the kick board was about 10cm too short so I sent him away and said cut new ones as the gaps looked odd. He said no problem but still waiting for him to come back. I think a space of 605mm would look a bit strange. If it was fully integrated it wouldnt matter as I imagine they could make the front to fit but being semi intregrated you cant change the width of the top part with the nobs so the front panel has to stay the same width or will look odd. I would make him change it. Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 3Sep 19, 2012 4:12 pm Thats what i thought and was worried about, i really didnt want the go back to the builder for more changes.. but at the same time it needs to be perfect.. we are spending way too much money on upgrades in the kitchen so after all this i cant have ugly gaps because of a stupid dishwasher.. Thanks Daisygirl. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 4Sep 19, 2012 4:46 pm I leave a space of 605mm for all dishwashers. 600mm can work with some, but it can also be to tight with others. Standard gaps between doors is 2.5mm but I leave a 3.5mm gap between the dishwasher door and what ever is beside it. The dishwasher doors can move slightly and a small gap will give you problems in the long run. I agree a 610mm space is a bit big. I would have the kitchen company leave a smaller space. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 5Sep 19, 2012 5:18 pm I hope the builder can change it, I think he should be able to.. Thanks for the advice.. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 6Sep 19, 2012 5:52 pm boosho I hope the builder can change it, I think he should be able to.. Thanks for the advice.. You need to get the builder to get the cabinet maker to change it. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 7Sep 19, 2012 5:55 pm Its a large volume builder so they have to make the change in the drawing first which the cabinet maker will then follow.. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 8Sep 26, 2012 1:14 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens boosho I hope the builder can change it, I think he should be able to.. Thanks for the advice.. You need to get the builder to get the cabinet maker to change it. hey CEK, our builder just told us its too late to make this change (we dont even have a slab yet and havent even signed our final drawing) im going to keep pushing, but if they insist on not making this change, is there anything that can be done about that? like side panels that can added or anything? i'm pretty upset about this now, coz we always knew we are getting an integrated dishwasher but never crossed our mind to check the size and assumed it would be pretty standard.. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 9Sep 26, 2012 1:27 pm boosho CuttingEdgeKitchens boosho I hope the builder can change it, I think he should be able to.. Thanks for the advice.. You need to get the builder to get the cabinet maker to change it. hey CEK, our builder just told us its too late to make this change (we dont even have a slab yet and havent even signed our final drawing) im going to keep pushing, but if they insist on not making this change, is there anything that can be done about that? like side panels that can added or anything? i'm pretty upset about this now, coz we always knew we are getting an integrated dishwasher but never crossed our mind to check the size and assumed it would be pretty standard.. What a joke! are the F&*#ing serious! That is something I could actually change onsite when fitting the kitchen! I would keep pushing. Its a very small detail that only affects the look of the kitchen nothing else. There is no reason why they couldnt change it. Stand your ground. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 10Sep 26, 2012 1:31 pm I KNOW.. I've already written back to them.. and worst case i guess i wont sign the final drawings until its changed.. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 11Sep 27, 2012 8:30 am boosho I KNOW.. I've already written back to them.. and worst case i guess i wont sign the final drawings until its changed.. Spot on! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 12Sep 27, 2012 4:40 pm They have finally agreed to make the change after arguing back and forth about it all day.. anyways CEK can i bug you with another question? We had also requested they extend the kichboard by the diswasher space to its just one long kichboard but they've just sent me the variation and the drawing and it says "Kickrail to kitchen to extend over dishwasher space and will include a base shelf" from your experience is that shelf removable. Again i'm sorry if this is a stupid question (and now as i'm typing it i get the feeling i already know the answer) but with the shelf the space for dishwasher height is reduced by 42mm and limits our choices. Building Henley Monaco Nouveau Q1 - Mernda Villages https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=57810 http://razbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Gap between cabinets and Semi Integrated dishwasher 13Sep 29, 2012 6:50 pm Sorry I have no idea what they mean by"will include base shelf" A dishwasher space is just a space. It doesn't require anything else other than 605mm wide space. The kick board front should then run across in front of the dishwasher after its installed. I usually have a separate kick piece infront of the dishwasher as it can be a big hassle removing the entire front. 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