Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Sep 05, 2012 3:04 pm Hi guys, I am in the process of designing 2 "side by side mirror image townhouses" in Melbourne My architect has drawn up the initial drawing, the kitchen has a 4 metre island benchtop and a 4 metre window as splashback. There is also a rear benchtop of approx 5 metre. He told me that using window instead of tradional coloured splashback is more stylish nowadays. And having long benchtops looks grand. My question is that: - Is having 4m island bench and 5m rear bench way too big?? - How much roughly would each bench cost for caesarstone? - I heard somewhere in the forum that the longest is 3m without a join? so does this mean i would need join on each of the benchs? if thats the case, will they break easily? I would need to consider carefully before architect submit the final drawing to council and i do not have much time I have attached our floorplan + our kitchen inspiration photo below Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This is our kitchen floorplan Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This is our a kitchen by another homeone member, and I took his inspiration, but wanting to extend the window splashback Please help Thanks in advance Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 2Sep 05, 2012 4:42 pm I think maybe that 4m is probably on the long side for a splasback window but it does depend on the actual height of th window, your inspiration photo looks lovely and in proportion, however it is quite a narrow window, I think a 4m long skinny window would look out of proportion, however you could do one that is higher, our splasback window is 700mm high, so takes up the full height from benchtop to under cupboards but it is only 2.7m long, we also have an island bench just under 4m, which I love, yes we have a join in our benchtop which isn't ideal A photo of our 700x2700 window and also our 3.8 bench. Hope that helps a little Like ⋅ 1 comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 3Sep 05, 2012 8:24 pm I love the look of windows in place of a splash back. The photo you attached looks great and I have seen some of the longer ones in displays, so if you went with this it would work well. Although my concern would be and the reason why I actually wouldn't put one in my house is the splashing of cooking oils and food onto it and cleaning. I believe (but actually don't know) that clear glass window would be more noticeable if dirty that a normal splash back. My advise would be normal splash back behind cook top and two windows either side similar to your photo since you have 4-5 metres to play with. Good luck with what you decide - look forward to seeing how it goes. Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 4Sep 05, 2012 9:05 pm Good point Mitch, but so far I haven't had a problem, but I do have a very different cooktop than most, it is quite skinny and long, so I suppose my cooktop is further away from the glass than most Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 5Sep 05, 2012 9:06 pm melbbuild He told me that using window instead of tradional coloured splashback is more stylish nowadays. And having long benchtops looks grand. melbbuild - Is having 4m island bench and 5m rear bench way too big?? Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 6Sep 05, 2012 9:29 pm gogo65 I think maybe that 4m is probably on the long side for a splasback window Thanks for your reply gogo, I am now comfortable with the joins on benchtop as I really do want a long island bench top! Regarding the window splashback, I am still not sure whether there are manufacturer that does 4 metre glass windows, like how to they deliver to my house? I couldn't image a clear glass window with joins...it will look bad. Oh, by the way, could you please tell me the brand for your cooktop? I love those horizontal ones as oppose to squarish ones. I normally cook with 3 stoves at the same time.... mitch29 Although my concern would be and the reason why I actually wouldn't put one in my house is the splashing of cooking oils and food onto it and cleaning. I believe (but actually don't know) that clear glass window would be more noticeable if dirty that a normal splash back. Hi Mitch, I am also concerned about the grease, but i guess the look of it outweighs the need for frequent cleaning rocketship melbbuild No window but my island is 4m (back bench approx. 6.6m), to give you an idea of size, the black uprights and overhead cupboards make up 5.2m of overall length. I LOVE your kitchen Rocketship, you are correct that outside the splashback window, it will be yellow fence. my architect has suggest me putting up a metal mesh on the fence and grow some plants/flowers to get some colours going. So for your 4m island bench, where did you put the joins? Also are you able to inform me the approx. price for the benchtops? I am intending to build mine as owner builder. Oh, by the way, could you please tell me the brand for your cooktop? I love those horizontal ones as oppose to squarish ones. I normally cook with 3 stoves at the same time.... Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 7Sep 05, 2012 9:36 pm The concept looks lovely. You can't get any bigger than 3m in Caesar stone without a join. Also there will be 1m of wastage on each slab for the island bench. You could to waterfall panels to utilise the slabs though. The back bench will generally be a full slab of 2.5 with a join in the centre. Look me up, when you're ready if you'd like Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 8Sep 05, 2012 9:41 pm I remember someone on the rawson thread (maybe jen1977) wanting a large splasback window, maybe 4or 5m but they were required to get a commercial window and the costs were huge. Rocketship and I have the same cooktop, the Barazza 1200. Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 9Sep 06, 2012 9:36 am Gogo you have a good memory. I am building a Rawson house. Our back bench is 4.75m and I wanted a window to span the full width of this. I have been told that it cannot be done - well it can, but with a lot of expense. Firstly it would need to be commercial grade of glass, as your normal 4mm glass would not be thick enough for that length of window. Another option would be that you could have the window at this length, but you would need transom bars every metre which would mean separate panes of glass. This would not look as nice as the single pane of glass, but you would not also have to take out a mortgage if you broke it. We didn't want the transoms, so went to the largest piece of single glass that our builder would do for us, which is 3m long. This window is in the centre of the 4.75m bench and we will have 875mm white glass spashback on either side of the glass. We were quoted for a 4.75m pane with transoms and we would have needed a steel beam, it would have been about $4000 - $5000 - cant quite remember the exact amount. We are paying $2000.00 for the 3m window without transom bars. Modified Fernside 38 Rawson Homes Blog: http://www.thehousethatmatandjenbuilt.blogspot.com Build Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=60501 Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 10Sep 06, 2012 12:02 pm Have you thought of having a single 3m section in the middle with louvered sections at either end? ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 11Sep 06, 2012 2:18 pm Jen1977 - thanks for your information. 4 metre is definitely out of our budget then. I am now considering having 3 metres window splashback and also cut back the island benchtop to 3 metres as well so that they are in proportion. I am however, thinking whether to have single glass window of 3 metre or perhaps have 3 panels eg. 0.9+1.2+0.9 with the two 0.9 been awning or sliding window and 1.2 been fixed window for the cooktop. Example would be mike's kitchen below Any suggestions??? Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 12Sep 08, 2012 3:50 pm melbbuild Jen1977 - thanks for your information. 4 metre is definitely out of our budget then. I am now considering having 3 metres window splashback and also cut back the island benchtop to 3 metres as well so that they are in proportion. I am however, thinking whether to have single glass window of 3 metre or perhaps have 3 panels eg. 0.9+1.2+0.9 with the two 0.9 been awning or sliding window and 1.2 been fixed window for the cooktop. Example would be mike's kitchen below Any suggestions??? Most manufacturers can't do 3000w fixed windows, but we can. We also make a 2650 wide single awning sash... without a mullion. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 13Sep 08, 2012 7:04 pm Melbbuild, where are you planning to have your oven? Are you going to have it in the middle of the back bench? We are having ours in the middle and one idea was to have the larger window with transoms, but have the transom to be 900mm wide so it matched the width of our free standing oven and hopefully you would not notice it too much and then have a wider panels on either side. Quote: Most manufacturers can't do 3000w fixed windows, but we can. We also make a 2650 wide single awning sash... without a mullion. We are building with Rawson, who use Stegbar for their windows and they do a 3000mm fixed panel. Modified Fernside 38 Rawson Homes Blog: http://www.thehousethatmatandjenbuilt.blogspot.com Build Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=60501 Re: Regarding 4 metre kitchen benchtop + window 14Sep 08, 2012 8:34 pm Jen1977 Melbbuild, where are you planning to have your oven? Are you going to have it in the middle of the back bench? We are having ours in the middle and one idea was to have the larger window with transoms, but have the transom to be 900mm wide so it matched the width of our free standing oven and hopefully you would not notice it too much and then have a wider panels on either side. Quote: Most manufacturers can't do 3000w fixed windows, but we can. We also make a 2650 wide single awning sash... without a mullion. We are building with Rawson, who use Stegbar for their windows and they do a 3000mm fixed panel. I say most - is that double glazed.. Do they do 2650 wide opening? Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. 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