Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Jun 06, 2011 8:46 pm Hi First time post for me. At early stages of designing and planning a major renovation which will include installing a brand new kitchen. I keep coming back to the country shaker style cabinetry and wonder if the only way to achieve this is with 2pac? We have three children under 5 and therefore I need a kitchen that will be built to last. Any suggestions or input re the 2pac question I would appreciate. Thanks Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 3Jun 07, 2011 8:06 pm You can get a polyurethane door in a shaker profile. Easy Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 4Jun 08, 2011 8:08 am Thanks for your responses Sorry to sound ignorant but isn't polyurethane also called 2pac and therefore brings up my concerns of chipping? I have read on one website that you can powdercoat cabiets which is a lower cost option to 2pac and it is very hardwearing. Anyone heard of this option? Thanks Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 5Jun 08, 2011 1:41 pm idream3 Thanks for your responses Sorry to sound ignorant but isn't polyurethane also called 2pac and therefore brings up my concerns of chipping? I have read on one website that you can powdercoat cabiets which is a lower cost option to 2pac and it is very hardwearing. Anyone heard of this option? Thanks Yes polyurethane is also 2pac. Shaker doors can also be done in vinylwrap. I havent heard of powdercoating doors. Metals are usually powdercoated and I couldnt see it being any cheaper. Also I havent fitted a vinylwrap kitchen in about 8 years and I would always recomend against it. Chipping is only an issue with a cheap polyurethane finish. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 6Jun 09, 2011 9:37 pm I wanted the same style kitchen and have ended up going with the 2pak. I would have been happy with painted timber doors but the kitchen places dont really do that these days! So we're going the opposite extreme and getting the 2pak. I looked into vinyl wrap but the major common problem with it is the heat melts the vinyl. I've even seen it in a brand new kitchen where the weather isn't even warm. You'll find it will definately be a problem with the cupboards closest to the oven too. Whereas with the 2pak it might chip it might not. So many people say that they are quite rough with theirs and havn't had any problem. Even people with kids. I hope I've made the right decision, good luck working out what you want to do. Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 7Jun 10, 2011 10:47 pm a little background, the company i work for do large scale qty cabinets that get fitted into brand new high rise appartments, when we fit our kitchens, we are the next trade after the plasterer, we then have a heap more trades behind us to complete the fitout. Now these tradies are not working with MRS Jones in the background watching every move, They are there to make serious money, which is time = money, and at times They can be rough around the already installed joinery. 2pac can take a fair amount of beating, even in a rough environment such as a commercial building site. It pains me to hear that people have an idea that 2pac will chip just by looking at it. 2pac has the name due to having 2 parts, the base and a catalyst that get mixed together, like a coloured version of areldite or epoxy. as mentioned before there are different quality's of polyurethane, so it would pay to ask for a sample from your kitchen contractor before you sign off on it. It is much hard wearing compared to vinyl wrap. It will chip, and it will scratch, there is no denying that, but it will take a fair bit of abuse before that, and the beauty of it is, it can always get repainted, one day, one week one year later without issues. as for the original post, Shaker doors can be created by getting the profile routered into a board, such as 18mm Satin finish MRMDF, this then gets painted in 2pac of the desired colour and finish. 60-100% gloss is probably a prefered finish as it can be rebuffed at a later date if there are marks or scratches in the finish. 30% gloss is all the rage, but if it gets damaged or marked, it will need to get repainted. it cant be rebuffed. as a few other cabinetmakers on this site have pointed out they dont use vinyl wrap, i too have a strong dislike for it,the only ones who really like it are the big kitchen companies who will push vinyl wrap as they can make better money out of the margin compared with 2pac. JMO I have heard of powdercoating MDF. its a pretty new sort of thing [last 5 years] but i dont see a benefit to it. Powdercoat isnt as hard a finish as 2pac, and will scratch easier than 2pac. Hope this helps with some further info. Thanks G Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 8Jun 12, 2011 11:30 am Pitto, thank you for your explanation as it was very informative. My new kitchen has the shaker profile and is painted in a Dulux colour with polyurethane with a hand painted finish (i.e. brush/bristle strokes) for an authentic "hand painted" finish. It is durable and easy to keep clean. I was told that if we ever got sick of the colour, it could always be painted over. I would personally avoid vinyl wrap unless that is all your budget allows. I've seen it peel off which is unsightly and a hygiene issue. Re: Country/Shaker style kitchen 9Jun 14, 2011 5:39 pm Thanks so much for all the information. I think 2 pac does get a bit of a bad wrap but think it is the way to go. Looking forward to many more 'conversations' on here as we go through the process! The Dulux colour consultants are awesome. If you show them the photos they should be able to figure it out for you straight away 1 1619 No. It's not original. Circa early to mid 90s would be my guess and maybe even as late as early 2000s 1 6636 2 4688 |