Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Jan 07, 2011 8:59 am Hi everyone, I have been a silent stalker for a while checking out every ones kitchens for ideas. My new kitchen is booked in for the 7th March and I am still changing my mind every day. Bloody nightmare, I hate making decisions at the best of times. Anyway I am wondering if anyone has had their drainage grooved into their bench top instead of getting a drainage sink. With kids we still tend to do a lot of washing up so my husband is instant that we have double drainage on either side of the sink. However I think they are ugly and want to create that stream line look with our ceasserstone and have the sink under mounted. I love the idea of grooving it into the stone and two of the quotes I got were happy to do it. Another however said it doesn't work well and they wouldn't touch the idea. Would love to hear some feedback and idea's. Annie Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 3Jan 07, 2011 10:02 am I considered this too Annie but was advised against it due to grime that can accumulate in the grooves. Now I know if I had them I would clean them daily, but I don't do too much washing up by hand anyway....if I had my time over I think I would actually get them, especially if you are still doing a lot by hand. At the moment I have to put a couple of tea towels on the bench to soak up the water. Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 4Jan 07, 2011 10:51 am You can get undermount sinks that also include an undermount strainer, this will still give you the streamlined look. See here for an example http://www.smegappliances.com.au/Produc ... 16NA2.aspx Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 6Jan 07, 2011 11:25 am I am only getting a full size under mount sink and a half size as it is a small kitchen . The half size with drainer attached would never suffice with the amount of washing up we do. I need to go and check out the under mounted sinks with drainage but they just look so big and I am wanting to create as much bench space as possible. When someone mentioned the idea of grooving in the drainage I loved the idea, however I am yet to see a picture or read on here where it has been done. Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 8Jan 07, 2011 11:43 am Could you not get an undermount sink with drainage and then a piece of ceasarstone cut to the same shape to sit on top (if you know what I mean). This gives you the streamlined bench look but when you need to wash up, you take out the ceaserstone insert and use the drainage area. Just an idea. Building tip No. 3: A raft slab will not get you down a river. A waffle pod slab does not go with maple syrup. My building thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=53000 Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 9Jan 07, 2011 11:53 am There are a few shots here: http://www.caesarstone.com.au/Applications/Kitchen.aspx I am ambivalent about them; I don't consider undermount sinks to be any more hygienic than top mount or machined grooves - sinks made entirely out of Caesarstone have a bit more appeal as there is much less of a transition between surfaces. Whatever choice you make it will have to be kept clean, just like every other part of your kitchen. If you really want something that is "easy" to clean you could make an entire benchtop and integrated sink out of stainless with a nice raised lip at the front so water doesn't run down the front of the cabinets - nowhere for water to collect or for mould to grow except in the drain hole. Cheers, Earl Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 10Jan 07, 2011 12:16 pm What about these https://secure.wheelandbarrow.com.au/onlinestore/product.php?productid=98650&cat=341&page=1 https://secure.wheelandbarrow.com.au/onlinestore/product.php?productid=98649 Built with RedInk Custom 5000 Key Handover 15/12/2009 Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 11Jan 07, 2011 12:29 pm You can buy dishdrainers with a matching tray that sits underneath to catch drips. Then you can pack the whole lot up and put away when you're finished and have your nice streamlined benches on show again. I'm pretty sure I saw some at Howard's Storage World but I have seen them somewhere else too but can't remember, sorry! Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 12Jan 07, 2011 1:40 pm Hi, most Caesarstone tops that we do where the client choses to have an undermount sink, they tend to also go with the drainer grooves machined into the stone. It's a great option and gives the top a modern and minimalistc look. If you are considering getting these, make sure the stone mason tapers the grooves back into the sink (so the water does sit in the grooves). Sort of goes without saying, but I have seen some stone masons leave the grooves at the same depth all the way through. I am getting them done in my new kitchen shortly. Hope this helps With 25 years kitchen experience and a passion for what I do, I have joined this forum to offer advice or at least my opinion on all things relevant to kitchens. I was a cabinetmaker by trade and am now a senior manager of a kitchen company. Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 13Jan 07, 2011 1:52 pm Kitchenpro Hi, most Caesarstone tops that we do where the client choses to have an undermount sink, they tend to also go with the drainer grooves machined into the stone. It's a great option and gives the top a modern and minimalistc look. If you are considering getting these, make sure the stone mason tapers the grooves back into the sink (so the water does sit in the grooves). Sort of goes without saying, but I have seen some stone masons leave the grooves at the same depth all the way through. I am getting them done in my new kitchen shortly. Hope this helps Thanks kitchenpro, The company I have chosen to do the kitchen advised me that the grooves would need to be tapered so sounds like they know what they are doing. I am 90% sure I am going to go this option, just wanted to see if anyone had experience with them and if there were problems. I love the fact it allows for more stone bench and less stainless steel. Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 14Jan 08, 2011 3:28 am we chose to have a sink that had accessories that included a SS drainboard that could sit on the bench or on the other sink. That way when we need it it sits there with the dish rack, and when we don't have anything drying in it it sits in the cupboard underneath (this happens about 1 day a year!!!!!!!!) Recently moved to a 60's home in need of some improvement! http://s797.photobucket.com/user/leenii ... ch%20House Old house: http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy25 ... loo/House/ Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 15Jan 08, 2011 7:41 am leni we chose to have a sink that had accessories that included a SS drainboard that could sit on the bench or on the other sink. That way when we need it it sits there with the dish rack, and when we don't have anything drying in it it sits in the cupboard underneath (this happens about 1 day a year!!!!!!!!) I love your kitchen Leni , after seeing it I have changed my mind and am now trying to find tiles instead of a glass splash back. I love the way yours create a subtle texture amongst all the white. I am also going handless and trying to decide if I should go the shadow look or have the aluminum lip, which I understand you can have colored. I have noticed that you have gone a combination which I think looks great. My kitchen is around the same size and I am worried I don't have the length to create that streamline look the lip can do but I kind of want to break the white up a little. I think by just having them on the bottom you have done just that. Your microwave cupboard I am also going to try and have installed as I love the way you have hidden it. After much thought last night I am choosing to have the grooves carved into the stone. I am not interested at all in having a drainboard that needs to be packed away as I know it will never happen. I am now trying to decide on whether to have waterfall edges on my floating bench or not. I was all for them until I saw this kitchen on the forum (sorry I can't remember whose it was ) and love the style of keeping the shadow all the way around the edges. . However the waterfall edging looks very slick. Think it will come down to cost on that decision and if I want to spend more on appliances and fixtures I may go with the cheaper option. Annie Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 16Jan 08, 2011 9:37 am I have drainage grooves. I love them. I can't remember off the top off my head how much extra we had to pay for them, but I think they are worth the money. I have 3 little boys, one still on bottles. Most stuff goes straight in the dishwasher, but they are constantly drinking out of water bottles throughout the day and their plastic cups, that it's easier to just quickly give them a wash and on the drainer without having to get anything out to sit on the bench. A friend of mine didn't get them as she was told they didn't work by another friend and the water just sat there, but obviously they weren't cut properly, whereas ours drains straight into the sink. As for cleaning, no more maintenance than cleaning any other type of drainer and so far we haven't had any dramas with gunk getting stuck on them. They are pretty shallow and very smooth so things wipe straight off. The only thing I have found is that if I put a wet glass on there upside down to drain, they sometimes leave little rings that are hard to get off. You can't see them as such, but you can feel them, if you know what I mean? So if I do wash any glasses in the sink, then I will put a tea towel down or dry them straight away, but they are usually in the dishwasher anyway and I usually dry my dishes straight away as I hate seeing them on the bench Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 18Jan 09, 2011 8:11 pm Kitchenpro Hi, most Caesarstone tops that we do where the client choses to have an undermount sink, they tend to also go with the drainer grooves machined into the stone. It's a great option and gives the top a modern and minimalistc look. If you are considering getting these, make sure the stone mason tapers the grooves back into the sink (so the water does sit in the grooves). Sort of goes without saying, but I have seen some stone masons leave the grooves at the same depth all the way through. I am getting them done in my new kitchen shortly. Hope this helps Kitchenpro, you have a PM waiting for you to be read. Thanks..... Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Drainage grooved into Cessarstone 19Jan 18, 2011 5:02 pm I'm glad I found this thread, this is exactly why I came to this forum. So now that I've read it all and got all the opinions I'm going ahead with the grooving and wondering how much I should be paying. I've been quoted $500 but this is better than the last quote that I'm pretty sure was $1400 (I'd have to check with dh to be sure). Can anyone give me a ballpark price for grooves? That's very helpful, thank you. I was mostly interested in knowing if a spoon drain requires a specific slope, but I appreciate the extra information. 4 3919 because its not being managed properly. 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