Browse Forums Kitchen Corner Re: Life span of kitchens 2Sep 03, 2006 12:27 pm Hello, anyone here? I would really appreciate any info on this.
Can someone please tell me how kitchens built as a part of a new house by a cabinet maker compare to mid-range European kitchens? I've recently read that a kitchen in a newly built house is usually worth 10% of the amount paid for the whole house, and I reckon for this price you can get a good European kitchen! Am I wrong? Re: Life span of kitchens 3Sep 03, 2006 6:01 pm give up on expecting euro finish or quality in your house - we simply don't have the expertise in Australia or, if not a luxury home, an ordinary punter can't afford it.
an ordinary australian kitchen should last 20 years without fail. ps you must understand one thing in europe, most take their kitchen's with them when they shift house. so rather than being a kitchen cabinet, they have kitchen furniture, hence the difference in quality. Re: Life span of kitchens 4Sep 17, 2006 4:51 pm Correct about the euro kitchens, in fact they just about take everything expect the shell of the house when they move!!
How long your kitchen last will depend on what you use and how you treat it! My kitchen is 20 years old; I have only just resurfaced the tops. It is all laminate, and looks as good as the day I put it in, I only replaced the tops because I was doing a reno and wanted a different colour and look. Project homes will use basic kitchens, a really good kitchen can cost a fair bit of money, money well spent in my eyes. The kitchen is the HUB of the home and should be constructed to take what you will dish out to it. Many kitchens now are laminate cupboards with a solid surface bench top, Quarts, Corrian, Marble and Granite. This is a much more expensive kitchen but the bench tops will last for ever! As for a percentage of your kitchen to your house, again will depend on the type of house you are building and the expense of your kitchen and appliances. Don’t believe everything you read. And where would you get the Euro kitchen from? Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Life span of kitchens 6Sep 18, 2006 10:37 am There are quite a few European kitchen showrooms in AUS, admittedly in the higher price range, such as Poggenpohl, Bontempi, etc. They are absolutely beautiful and light years away from everything else I've seen. Bontempi aparently start at 25k - so it's not THAT expensive. Re: Life span of kitchens 7Sep 18, 2006 11:56 am OK guys I was being smart when I asked about the Euro kitchen.
Do either of you have links to any of the suppliers here in Oz? Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Life span of kitchens 8Sep 18, 2006 1:14 pm Michelle, not sure about NSW, I think A La Carte is the importer for Poggenpohl in NSW, I am in Melbourne and got my catalogue from Pepper Kitchens and Interiors. Bontempi have a showroom in Richmond, no idea about NSW. Poliform (I think) only have showrooms in Melbourne and Brisbane. Dan Kitchens have a showroom in Sydney.
As to their websites: www.poggenpohl.de www.bontempi.com.au www.poliform.com.au/varenna.htm www.dankitchens.com.au Re: Life span of kitchens 9Sep 18, 2006 1:29 pm Thanks Mek!!
I’m aware of the Poliform web site, but the others look interesting. Basically just clean line kitchens; we’ve been doing this look for a while in commercial applications. It seems you have a lot to choose from, good luck! Thanks for the info!! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Life span of kitchens 10Oct 06, 2006 7:47 pm mek Poliform (I think) only have showrooms in Melbourne and Brisbane. Poliform have their Sydney head office and showroom at 184 Chalmers St, Surry Hills. They have 4 kitchens on display. There is another showroom at Space Furniture in Alexandria too. Re: Life span of kitchens 11Oct 25, 2006 8:26 pm hi all, any good quality kitchen manufacturer in oz has the know how to build euro style kitchens as the materials used are all readily available locally.
The primary reason for euro style being slow to catch on in our markets is an unrealistic expectation of quality kitchen cost within the marketplace. This is due in the main to the growth in recent years of flat pack peddlers and international furniture conglomerates introducing cheap (price & quality) d.i.y. kitchens and the associated advertising creating perceptions in consumer land that a kitchen costs between 4-6K. As has been the case with previous products, most serious players in the game are convinced that these cellar dwellers wil continue to supply the cut price builder market but that Mr & Mrs Public are beginning to wake up to the questionable marketing and quality of these products. Re: Life span of kitchens 12Oct 25, 2006 10:19 pm designmarc, I'm still looking but after months of going through every kitchen magazine on the market and seeing countless display villages kitchens I have yet to see anything even remotely similar to the likes of Bontempi or Poliform in looks. So from my personal opinon, Australia might be there with quality as you say, but definitely not with design. I would be very happy if you proved me wrong. There are one or two exceptions of course but that's about it. Re: Life span of kitchens 13Oct 26, 2006 8:31 am hi again,
you are right, in the local magazines you will not see much at all due in the most part to lack of local demand. As I have stated, if you have something in mind all you need to do is take a picture to any good manufacturer and they will be able to quote to reproduce here. Most of the european product utilises non-profiled high pressure laminates or new age veneers all of which are readily available in oz. The preventative for most is the cost as within oz these are all rated as premium finishes ex suppliers and are costed accordingly. In addition there is almost always a large component of stainless steel involved in this style of kitchen which is also costly in oz. When the cut price (poor quality) and flat pak (usually asian imports) markets create a public perception that the average kitchen can be had for $4-8K when the truth is more like $11-15K for cabinets only then it is only natural most will baulk at the prospect of $20-25K for euro. Hi, Really struggling to find some consistency amongst Span Tables, can anyone help… 0 2662 You should pressure clean your roof first and make sure the paint you buy also is anti mould. 4 18563 "is it exempt or do I need to get permission from council" Call your Council and ask them 1 1558 |