Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Aug 16, 2009 8:10 pm I am bravely entering the world of kitchen cabinet materials, and becoming confused with every conversation I have! THis is our first renovation and we really want to get it right - quality is important but we are working to a budget as well! I have heard bad things about vinyl wrap (warps and splits under heat), but great things about Kitset. Thought that 2 pack was the best, but apparently it chips too. I am after shaker style doors in a grey colour, needs to be able to cope with young children, would want it to still look great in ten years. Any recommendations and price estimates would be appreciated! We are renovating in Melbourne. THANKS Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 2Aug 16, 2009 8:41 pm I guess if your looking at kitset you guys are after a flatpack. I'm also getting a flat pack but through a kitchen company so it can be custom made. From my own researching, laminex was the absolute cheapest and had a good range. Kitset was about $1500 more but had a slightly better range of sizes in their flatpack and can also custom make certain units to fit your space. Bunnings and ikea also do flat packs. If your after a shaker style door then i think that is only available with a 2 pack finish. My suggestion is to do up a rough kitchen plan of where you want what then have a look online at what the different companies offer and get some quotes. Best of luck. Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 3Aug 16, 2009 9:05 pm Thanks Mango. We are not devoted to Kitset - just heard that it is good value for money (most of their products seem to be melamine or vinyl though.) We are starting to get some quotes. The first (from a local kitchen guy) was 21k for laminate and 24k for 2 pack. That didn't include appliances, but did include caesar stone benchtops and glass splash backs. To your point, we can't get the shaker doors in laminate, so that rules that option out - really leaving us choosing between vinyl (cost effective) and 2 pack (not so much!) Does 24k sound high? The kitchen isn't enormous - 3.2m x 4m. U shaped, no island. Getting more quotes this week. Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 4Aug 16, 2009 9:07 pm Just went through this this week. I found that most "flat pack" suppliers have a wide range of cabinet sizes but say you will have to wait 4-6 weeks but the true time was 2-8 weeks depending on who you speak to. Bunnings was actually the cheapest in my search as they come ready to assemble and includes hinges, you just need a bottle of glue and some screws to mount them up. Bunnings also have a limited range of sizes and i had to sut down an 800mm wide to fit the gap. If youare capable of cutting down a cabinet then this will probably be the cheapest way. I found that kitset standard cabinets were 600mm tall, where all others (that i found) were 720mm tall, so be sure that compare the same size cabinets to get a true comparison of costs. All suppliers will quote plus doors, i used bunnings for the cabinets and had my doors made by a separate company who mached my existing colours and made the face boards to suit. I hope this helps. What sort of changes are you looking to make? Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 5Aug 16, 2009 9:12 pm $21K ???????????????????????????????????????? Surely this a joke, i got quoted $2100 for 4 high mounted cupboards supplied and fitted and fitting a rangehood. for $21k I hope they are removing the whole existing kitchen, custom building all of your cupbaords and supplying gold hinges. I don't know whats involved but surely thats way over the top Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 6Aug 16, 2009 9:25 pm With your quote, are you having blum soft close drawers and cupboards? That can add to the cost, as i have found out. I never actually got a quote from bunnings because of the limited range in sizes and colours. We are going the flat pack option because i want the soft close blum stuff and granite and glass. If you can DIY you will really save the $$$. (I might not be thinking it was worth it in three weeks time when my husband and i are assembling the cabinets. Excited and a liitle scared.) Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 7Aug 16, 2009 9:41 pm Hi there, the 21 -24k was for soft closing drawers (not sure they were Blum or not, assume so.) The quote included $600 to remove the old kitchen, about $1500 for glass splash backs, $3000 for stone bench tops and all carptentry and plastering (we need to move a door.) The kitchen guy strongly warned us against using vinyl (which is what Kitset's range is) - but that could have just been because he wanted us to pay for 2 pack! He said he couldn't guarantee it, but then I see places like IKEA with 25 year guarantees, on what I assume would be a similar product to vinyl! Mango, which company are you using? Like you, I really don't want to compromise on the bench tops, splash backs and soft close drawers. Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 8Aug 16, 2009 10:10 pm We are going with a local kitchen company but i nearly went with either Laminex or kitset as the flat pack is costing a few thousand more but i know i'm paying for custom made sizes and i'm fussy. (we are in the NT and i can PM if you happen to be up north). Kitset do have a melamine sheen board which is from polytec, not just vinyl wrap. Its not the createc high gloss but its still nice and very reasonable. They have their planning guide on their website with all the sizes on so you should check it out. Laminex has a good range of choices and apart from not being able to customise the size of a unit i would have gone with them. great quality and price. If my quote had of been any higher i would have gone with them as it would have been cheaper to move that internal wall. One piece of advice is to always make sure your quote specifies exactly what you want. Eg blum soft close tandembox. Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 9Aug 16, 2009 10:35 pm newby126 Does 24k sound high? The kitchen isn't enormous - 3.2m x 4m. U shaped, no island. Getting more quotes this week. newby126 Hi there, the 21 -24k was for soft closing drawers (not sure they were Blum or not, assume so.) The quote included $600 to remove the old kitchen, about $1500 for glass splash backs, $3000 for stone bench tops and all carptentry and plastering (we need to move a door.) Thats still alot of money. Why not try and get some quotes from independant trades? i.e. a glass supplier, an electrician, a stonemason, a cabinet maker and then tally the total cost. Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 10Aug 17, 2009 10:20 pm I agree with Bam. Its a lot of money. http://www.flatpackitchens.com.au/ http://www.flatpack-kitchens.com.au/ http://www.smartpackkit.com.au/SiteMedia/w3svc124/Uploads/Documents/Smartpackpricelist%20Kitchen%20April%202009%20email.pdf links 1. Flatpack kitchens NSW 2. Flatpack kitchen designs VIC 3. Smartpack ??? work out what size and type of cupboards you need and see what the cost would be i you bought and assembled them (make sure you add in enough $$ for screws etc for fixing and thing slike handles) then get your current tradesman to give a cost of just assembly and a separate qoute for moving the door. It may be cheaper for you to get one person to shift the doorway and another to build the cupboards. Re: Kitchen Cabinets - help! 11Aug 17, 2009 11:55 pm Howdy newby126, That sound like a lot of money to me I have a slightly smaller kitchen and doing it myself. OK I have some tools and the rest I hire my cabinet budget is $3.400 that includes sink and electrical fittings I got from IKEA. I think it is worth visiting IKEA for ideas they are cheaper than Bunnings. I used light porcelain floor tiles and likewise for the wall tiles as I have to completely remove the old plumbing and taps. I do not expect to spend more than 7k in the overall budget including labour(my own) Keep in mind kitchen renovation is where businesses charge a lot on demolition normally a few thousands to any quote. You can really use anything you want the main consideration would be how it looks once painted/finished - or the look you want. Cabinetmakers use MDF because its cheap… 2 10000 Thanks mate. Yeah good points! Leaning towards Option 3 to get a bit extra space in the cabinets but not going too crazy high (and expensive). Would require a mini… 13 39825 You never have a fridge against wall as you’ve drawn. 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