Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Aug 10, 2009 10:21 pm Just a couple of quick questions about my kitchen plans. I don't want to spend a bomb on my kitchen but I love a few of the new kitchen ideas. Was just wondering whether there is a budget alternative or are the following features for luxury kitchens only?? Handle-less drawers/cupboards? Wide island benchtop - approx. 3m long x 1200mm wide Waterfall edges (for above dimensions) - are these only available in stone or is there a laminex or acrylic alternative? TIA Kylie Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 2Aug 10, 2009 11:06 pm Laminated waterfall benches can definitely be done - the photo below is a set of tops which were supposed to be a kitchen island but ended up getting cut down to make a conference table instead; it is 3300mm x 950mm. 1200mm wide laminated board will retail around $300 or so per linear metre plus the cutting of the mitres for the waterfalls, double sided laminated boards of course will cost a bit more (for where the waterfall ends are seen on the inside as well). Handle less doors/drawers work two ways - 1/. Touch catches, where you press on the door/drawer and a spring driven plunger will force the door open - this can work with flat colourboard doors. 2/. the boards for doors and drawers are machined with a bevel along the top edge so that when one grabs the top of the door/drawer there is a sloping edge to grab onto - this can only be done on solid coated doors such as two pack painted boards, which means that they are not that cheap. Cheers, Earl Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 3Aug 10, 2009 11:45 pm One suggestion is that if your going to have over head cupboards make sure they are in line with the rangehood and don't come down lower than it. Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 4Aug 11, 2009 1:34 am Have you looked at flat pack kitchens from Ikea etc. You can get some pretty cool stuff quite a bit cheaper than cabinet makers. Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 6Aug 11, 2009 12:41 pm Strumer 1200mm wide laminated board will retail around $300 or so per linear metre plus the cutting of the mitres for the waterfalls, double sided laminated boards of course will cost a bit more (for where the waterfall ends are seen on the inside as well). Thanks Earl, If the benchtop itself is 1200mm side on top will the 1200mm wide laminate be wide enough to fold over the edges or will I need to have a join? I quite like the look of Laminex squareform edges. Strumer Handle less doors/drawers work two ways - 1/. Touch catches, where you press on the door/drawer and a spring driven plunger will force the door open - this can work with flat colourboard doors. These are what I was thinking of. Does anyone have an idea what these catches cost approx? I assume they're easily available? Concreater Have you looked at flat pack kitchens from Ikea etc. We bought flatpacks from Bunnings for our current laundry cupboards. We'll be getting this kitchen installed as part of our new house but I'm doing some prior research before going into the kitchen places to get quotes. The last kitchen place we visited went straight to stone benchtops and servo-drive cupboards, so I want to know what's available before I walk in to the next one! Thanks for the info guys, Kylie Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 7Aug 12, 2009 5:14 pm Macy netadelle One suggestion is that if your going to have over head cupboards make sure they are in line with the rangehood and don't come down lower than it. Can I ask why? It is just that in all the expensive display homes I went to that is how they had it. And in all the cheap display homes they had the cupboards lower then the rangehood. Expensive http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee153/netadelle/IMG_8071.jpg Cheap http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee153/netadelle/IMG_2022.jpg Expensive http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee153/netadelle/HouseHunting170108034.jpg Cheap http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee153/netadelle/IMG_2013.jpg Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 8Aug 12, 2009 5:49 pm netadelle It is just that in all the expensive display homes I went to that is how they had it. And in all the cheap display homes they had the cupboards lower then the rangehood. Good observation! I would probably have lined them up subconciously but now I will make sure to! Kylie Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 9Aug 19, 2009 10:38 am sorry for my ignorance... what is a "waterfall edge"? any pictures please. Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 10Aug 19, 2009 11:46 am chatterbox sorry for my ignorance... what is a "waterfall edge"? any pictures please. Waterfall is the frequently used term for a benchtop where the exposed edges are finished with another benchtop joining at 90 degrees to fall to the floor at the end of the cabinets. The table I posted a photo of above was going to be a waterfall top for an island of cabinets 3000mm long - what have become the legs of the table are the "waterfall" sides. Cheers, Earl Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 11Aug 19, 2009 11:52 am Great ideas here guys!! I've no advice, but I am very much taking notes!!! Thanks! ~W~ Building our forever home - Lilium Estate Clyde - Land due May 2019 Built our first home - Pakenham - 2011 Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 12Aug 19, 2009 5:05 pm netadelle Macy netadelle One suggestion is that if your going to have over head cupboards make sure they are in line with the rangehood and don't come down lower than it. Can I ask why? It is just that in all the expensive display homes I went to that is how they had it. And in all the cheap display homes they had the cupboards lower then the rangehood. Expensive Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Cheap Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Expensive Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Cheap Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I was wondering if there was a practical reason. Our cheap builders basic kitchen with limited options has the rangehood and cupboards lined up. Lower cupboards would be larger therefore take more material to make therefore cost more, wouldn't they? I'm not sure it always makes sense. I guess it's about perceptions. My perception of those pics is No 1 is swish but the colour and handles might date, No 2 is traditional neutral and will therefore never really date, No 3 is swish in a neutral classic way, and No 4 is a bit busy looking with that splashback. So I'd rank them 3, 2, 1, 4. I'd like a European kitchen like the one in our old house from a Danish company that used to be here. Traditional, neutral, timeless AND low formaldehyde. Not that they talked about that as a selling point because here no-one knows to ask about it. Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 13Aug 19, 2009 9:01 pm We have mitred edges on our laminate waterfall benchtop - love it This is the before shot of the incorrect benchtop on the island bench : Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This is the right one : Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Close up of the great job on the joins. They are so well done that you can hardly see them : Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 15Aug 19, 2009 9:52 pm A tiny bit off topic. But I was wondering if you can add waterfall effect to a benchtop after it has been installed? I have a granite bench top and was wondering if I can't get get someone to slap some granite on the sides of the island bench? Also, kb46 - I love the look of waterfall in laminex it is great and I bet it costs a whole lot less than granite. I think you can get the handless door open things from ikea for a good price to keep costs down. Ikea have a lot of great things for kitchens! *Built with Gemmill Homes in WA* Slab - 1st June 2009 Plate Height - 17th June 2009 Lock Up - 18th August 2009 PCI - 5th October 2009 Hand Over - 15th Oct 2009 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20844 Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 16Aug 19, 2009 11:28 pm That looks great - that's the squareform Laminex, yes? I think I've found the handless door/drawer openers - Blum call them "Tip-on", I'm sure there are other brands as well. The sales rep was trying to sell me the "Servo-drive" and I was sure I didn't need to have that, although I'm sure DH (gadget king) would love it! Kylie Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 18Aug 20, 2009 3:11 pm That's a great looking kitchen, well done We were told by one well-known kitchen company that waterfall edges couldn't be done in laminex You've proved them wrong! BTW What colours did you use? Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 19Aug 20, 2009 3:56 pm Thankyou, we're very happy with the look. A little different ! Tops cupboards - Laminex Nocturne Oak Floor cupboards - Laminex Moleskin Benchtop - Laminex Mocha Feldspar Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Budget price - upmarket look? 20Aug 20, 2009 5:07 pm Southies, I wouldn't class it as a 'budget kitchen'. It is very attractive and I love the colour contrast on your island bench. Coming back to your old stomping grounds, huh? Renovations on a budget can be quite the journey. It's like giving your house a new lease on life. The twist of not knowing… 1 3473 No the fireplace doesn’t work. It’s been enclosed. 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