Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Jun 03, 2009 2:21 pm My kitchen people are stuffing me about a little on this subject so I am looking for some info from all you kitchen owners out there After first saying that my rangehood would be ducted to atmosphere (and the resulting mechanisms hidden within a bulkhead above the cabinets) my kitchen peeps are now saying that the design never included a bulkhead over the cabinets (the cabs finish @ 2120mm for ref and there's a resulting void to ceiling height...if I knew how to post the 3D pic of my kitchen I would to make demonstrate exactly what I mean ). So, if I want the hoodie ducted to the atmosphere then presumably I will have some nasty looking carp coming out of the top of my cabinets. Ugh. I bought an undermount rangehood for this reason...probably could have saved $400 and got a slide out and ducted back in to the kitchen....anyway, questions is this: 1. How is your hoodie ducted? 2. Are there any reasons why I should really have it being ducted to the atmosphere or can I get away with re-circulation? Thanks in advance. ETA: my current hoodie is an old fash re-circulating job but does not blow out through the top of the cabs...it has some vents that blow out just above my head Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 2Jun 03, 2009 2:45 pm I'd also be interested to hear the responses. Our house is a two storey and the kitchen is kind of in the center of the house. Have no idea where the rangehood pipe is going to be ducted out to :S Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 3Jun 03, 2009 2:59 pm Our kitchen is also centre of house (single storey) will be ducted through ceiling/roof space to atmosphere an extra $500 to do this Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 4Jun 03, 2009 3:12 pm We don't have a bulkhead either. I was suspicious of our rangehood ducting as I could hear a funny pulsing noise from the rangehood which my dad said was the air coming back out as there was nowhere for it to go. So at our 3 month inspection I asked my builder to look at it. When he took the rangehood off, sure enough it was not ducted at all He went out and bought a ducting kit, sawed a hole into the wall cavity and pulled the ducting up through there. As far as I know it is ducted to the ceiling space. Not ideal but a far sight better then ducted to nowhere... But for the purposes of your question, it is possible to get it ducted through the wall cavity, up to the roof space and then out to the atmosphere as per normal. "Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." — Elizabeth Gilbert Living in our new house. Currently scaping the land. Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 5Jun 03, 2009 3:20 pm So this is a solution for the tops of your kitchen cabinets as I assuming the 2nd pic is how the top of your cabinets will end up looking. So with the 1st pic your exhaust will run out the top and with the2nd pic your exhaust will run out the back of the wall or you will see the metal ducting poking up through the top of your cabinets. These are your only options. Either cover it up or run it out your wall at the back(I am not sure of your home plan). I forget aswell you guys don't generally have brick walls like we do so it is easily fixed. Remember also the straighter the duct work the better your exhaust works........the more bends the harder it has to work and the louder and less effective it becomes. Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 6Jun 03, 2009 3:35 pm If you do not want bulkheads along the whole of the top cupboards, then you can just have a smaller bulkhead covering the flue pipe. But I would only do this if your rangehood is centred so that your bulkhead is centred, othwise it would look a little strange (IMO). George did a kitchen this way not too long ago and if its done properly it looks fine, he should have a photo somwhere if you really want me to look (so so many photos *sigh* I really need to do something about it ) Custom European Cabinets - Melbourne Kitchen Specialist PM for business details as website currently being updated! Our Crazy Owner Builder Journey! Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 7Jun 03, 2009 3:41 pm or could you get a canopy one that goes all the way to the roof, not needing a bulkhead and wouldn't look odd? "Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." — Elizabeth Gilbert Living in our new house. Currently scaping the land. Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 8Jun 03, 2009 4:34 pm We have a canopy rangehood that has ducting up into the ceiling then comes out of the sofit. It's covered by a grill that apparently opens and closes when the rangehood is turned on. You shouldn't have them ducted into the ceiling cavity - your insulation will fill with grease and become a fire hazard. It was a bit of an issue getting it done though. Our sparky attached the rangehood, but the plumber did the ducting. Go figure. Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 9Jun 03, 2009 8:27 pm Thanks everyone. Helps to know what others have gone/are going about things For ref the house is single storey and the nearest wall is plaster. I may have to consider a standard canopy rangehood based on the answers here but TBH they are not my fave things in the world. I have seen some really ******* and not very neat canopy rangehood fit-outs in display homes and it put me off hence I had convinced myself this was a way around it Another thing that was giving me the irrits was that my tradie quote includes "canopy ranehood" and "rendering" which again leads me to believe I was getting a d@mn bulkhead! Of course, no one returns my calls.... JellyLegs You shouldn't have them ducted into the ceiling cavity - your insulation will fill with grease and become a fire hazard. This is what I had heard too so I was very reluctant to duct it through the wall cavity and in to the ceiling...I had also been told to avoid flexitube for similar reasons (potentially a double whammy ). Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 10Jun 03, 2009 9:49 pm Kelly, I thought the same thing about canopy rangehoods. I really didn't want a big industrial looking thing sticking out. I found this one at Good Guys for about $350 (something like that). I've seen a similar looking miele one for about $900. I've only been in for a week, and so far so good. Its not as noisy as others I've lived with and looks quite stylish IMO! http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr64/JellyLegs01/100_0433.jpg there's a close up on my blog too if you're interested. Let me know if you'd like a close up of how it's fitted into the bulkhead. They cut a hole out and have finished it off with some quad (square dowel/trim) and it looks very neat. Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 11Jun 05, 2009 3:28 pm Thanks for the suggestion JellyLegs...that one is quite petite compared to others I have seen! I notice however that you have yours ducted up through a bulkhead though....this looks MUCH better than those I have seen going up through a cornice (I guess it's tricky to get it right with the angles etc). I am still waiting to hear back from my kitchen designer about this issue. The CAD drawings do not match the design we agreed to and the tradies quote seems to be inclusive of the work required for a bulkhead ...I might get my rangehood yet Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 12Jun 08, 2009 7:29 pm Kelly your stand alone units usually have a duct kit as an extra, however seeing as you have an integrated range, you will need to flue it behind the unit and hide it behind a bulkhead. Not a big job. HOWEVER- As kelly mentioned, ducting into your roof cavity is a MASSIVE fire hazard. I have renovated numerous commercial kitchens which have been gutted by fire and nearl all were the result of sparking into the rangehood. And they have their filters cleaned regularly too. All it takes is a good flare up on the cook top, and the fat catches fire and travels into your roof cavity, quicker than you can yell -"FIRE". Spend the extra and get it flued outside, small price to pay i think Adrien Mamet Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 13Jun 08, 2009 9:55 pm I thought it was law now...that it should be ducted outside...I had an old recirculating slide-our rangehood in the old kitchen. and the grease and dirt that settled on top of the cabinets was disgusting, however I am building a new kitchen and intend on ducting to the outside, however if I go through the roof...will all this grease and stuff settle on the roof (colourbond...will look pretty ugly) or if I go through the wall, my spa will be below...will the grease settle on the spa...or does it just dissapear magically? Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 14Jun 10, 2009 12:19 pm Mamcon Kelly your stand alone units usually have a duct kit as an extra, however seeing as you have an integrated range, you will need to flue it behind the unit and hide it behind a bulkhead. Not a big job. HOWEVER- As kelly mentioned, ducting into your roof cavity is a MASSIVE fire hazard. I have renovated numerous commercial kitchens which have been gutted by fire and nearl all were the result of sparking into the rangehood. And they have their filters cleaned regularly too. All it takes is a good flare up on the cook top, and the fat catches fire and travels into your roof cavity, quicker than you can yell -"FIRE". Spend the extra and get it flued outside, small price to pay i think Adrien Mamet Thanks for the info Adrien! Would you have any idea as to cost involved - we're talking about a relatively small area: 3m x 3m (L shaped bulkhead) x ~ 20cm to take it to ceiling height from top of cabs. I have someone coming out tomorrow and I will put the hard word on them as to cost. Looks like my fancy handles (that don't look like handles) are going to be sacrificed for this Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 15Jun 10, 2009 11:57 pm hi everyone we have extra high ceilings (34c) in the kitchen and no bulkhead on the wall where the rangehood is going to go (something i didn't think of ) i know that putting it through the cornice will probably look ugly but does anyone have good photos of rangehoods going through the cornice in the ceiling? or should i start getting upset from now???? any pics will be appreciated thanks nina "The fearless are merely fearless. People who act in spite of their fear are truly brave" - James A. LaFond-Lewis Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 16Jun 11, 2009 8:11 pm Littlemoscow should i start getting upset from now???? Join the club. I'm just copping the extra cost on the chin but then I only have standard ceilings so less exxy presumably (what exactly does 34c mean? ) Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 17Jun 12, 2009 3:30 pm _kelly_ Littlemoscow should i start getting upset from now???? Join the club. I'm just copping the extra cost on the chin but then I only have standard ceilings so less exxy presumably (what exactly does 34c mean? ) hi Kelly it's ok, this is how we measure ceiling heights in WA it stands for 34 course (34 standard bricks) each brick is 90mm Nina "The fearless are merely fearless. People who act in spite of their fear are truly brave" - James A. LaFond-Lewis Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 18Jun 19, 2009 11:10 pm Littlemoscow hi everyone i know that putting it through the cornice will probably look ugly but does anyone have good photos of rangehoods going through the cornice in the ceiling? or should i start getting upset from now???? any pics will be appreciated I just had my kitchen cabinets and benchtops installed today but it's a different tradie installing the canopy and ducting to atmosphere. I've left that section of cornice off until the rangehood is installed - it'll make it easier for him to install the ducting, and easier for me to install two shorter lengths of cornice than one long length on my own. I'll upload photos once it's done, but it might be a couple of weeks away... Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 19Jun 21, 2009 4:14 pm I just asked my builder and mine would have been ducted into the roof cavity. After reading this subject I decided to get it ducted to the outside and I got quoted $380.00 to do so. Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: How is YOUR rangehood ducted??? 20Jun 22, 2009 8:59 pm Eljay I just asked my builder and mine would have been ducted into the roof cavity. After reading this subject I decided to get it ducted to the outside and I got quoted $380.00 to do so. Everything must be dearer in Sydney - our rangehood installation was nearly $90 more than yours! Hi all, sorting out the ducted air con for a 350sqm double story house. Does this placement sound reasonable to you? Also, I plan to have 6 zones I think. Living room… 0 0 Hi all, sorting out the ducted air con for a 350sqm double story house. I think i plan to have 6 zones I think. Living room (mainly for entertainment so not used often),… 0 0 0 6294 |