Browse Forums Finishing Touch Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 3Apr 11, 2011 3:32 pm Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 4Apr 11, 2011 3:52 pm Thanks for your info. I need to do another coat either way as I can still see the original timber through the paint. So my options are: paint one more coat with oil enamel, or two more coats - one Zinsser sealer and then water based gloss. I still feel like I'd rather go with the second option, for my own and my family's health. Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 5Apr 11, 2011 6:54 pm Even if the water-based coat does chip or wear, the enamal coat should be more durable. Maybe oil then water coat gives you the best of all worlds - durable chip resistance and non yellowing. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 6Apr 11, 2011 7:40 pm Further to my disappointment with water based enamel, I went ahead and painted the insides of a drawer chest with it. I think most of the timber was actually sprayed with stain/lacquer, but I just painted over it and haven't had any issues with adhering or otherwise. Still WIP , but looks good so far. However, I have to say that I did not pay any attention to how the coating looks - being inside (after 2 coats, it's still craving for more). Stormy, great to hear about the desk and shelf. I was going to paint our large bookcase with gloss - do you think it's appropriate, or is it too glossy for furniture? I'm seriously tempted to keep the rest of my 4l water enamel for hidden jobs (internals ) and try to get proper acrylic - if it's still available Also want to paint some pieces in a combination of stain and white water based paint ... get tired of plain stained timber My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 7Apr 11, 2011 7:59 pm Lex Stormy, great to hear about the desk and shelf. I was going to paint our large bookcase with gloss - do you think it's appropriate, or is it too glossy for furniture? My thoughts exactly, which is why I went for the semi-gloss/satin acrylic, not full gloss. It looks fine on my furniture and certainly not 'too' shiny at all, but still esily cleaned. Quote: I'm seriously tempted to keep the rest of my 4l water enamel for hidden jobs (internals ) and try to get proper acrylic - if it's still available Is that proper acrylic, or proper enamel? Acrylic and water based are the same! If it's 'proper' enamel (ie, oil based stinky smelly), then yes, it is still available. Henley - Wilshire Mk 3 ... I love my house!! Site start: 4th Feb 09 Handover: 10th Sep 09 Blog: http://stormygirlscastle.blogspot.com/ Build Thread: viewtopic.php?t=7166 Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 8Apr 11, 2011 8:17 pm Yes, it's proper (water based) acrylic, as opposed to (not so good) water based enamel! Yeah, I know and I hate the linguo too . Yes, they are both water based, there is no confusion in my head about them Oil based paints have been out of my sphere of interest ever since I used that (water based) acrylic years ago Actually, I will hunt for those (last?) tins of "proper" (water based) acrylic next time I'm at Bunnings (which might be tomorrow) and take some pics. Actually, I may even buy some. Then I can test (water based) acrylic vs. water based enamel once and for all - at least from this manufacturer (these are both Taubmans' paints, so even better, no issue with paints being from different manufacturing plants bla bla) ... Thanks for sharing your painting details, Stormy My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 9Apr 11, 2011 8:21 pm Can I reply here…… Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 11Apr 12, 2011 11:18 am I haven't had good experiences with water based enamel/gloss acrylic (same thing IMO) either. I find it's very thin and you need at least 3 coats. In my last house I used it everywhere and it scratched and chipped too easily. It also pulled off the door frame onto the door. I swore I wouldn't use it at all in our new house and that I'd use oil enamel, as it's so much more hard wearing. BUT it's toxic. And it's YELLOW. Yuck. Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 14Apr 12, 2011 4:11 pm beckandbubs I haven't had good experiences with water based enamel/gloss acrylic (same thing IMO) either. I find it's very thin and you need at least 3 coats. In my last house I used it everywhere and it scratched and chipped too easily. It also pulled off the door frame onto the door. I swore I wouldn't use it at all in our new house and that I'd use oil enamel, as it's so much more hard wearing. BUT it's toxic. And it's YELLOW. Yuck. However, that particualr paint does not exist any more. I think because of that paint (and the paint job ), the house always looked as if it was freshly repainted - people kept asking if we repainted it all again My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 15Apr 12, 2011 4:50 pm Wow, sounds like miracle paint. I wish I had some! It probably doesn't exist for a reason. Maybe that's my problem in the old place, I was probably painting over oil based paints or something. I hope I don't have that problem this time. Last coat to go on tonight, wish me luck! Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 16Apr 12, 2011 6:45 pm beckandbubs Wow, sounds like miracle paint. I wish I had some! beckandbubs It probably doesn't exist for a reason. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 17May 10, 2011 4:24 pm Easy fix. I used water based and finished wood trim off with clear coat spray can. Magnificent finish. Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 18May 29, 2011 8:46 pm Waterbased enamel is actually supposed to be more durable than the traditional oil based enamel. As previously said here, waterbased enamel dosn't yellow, is quick drying , dosn't have the fumes, easy clean up and has all the durability of oil. If you have painted one coat of oilbased paint I would go over it with a undercoat called Taubmans 3 in 1. It is a waterbased undercoat that can even be applied to gloss oil enamel without sanding first. Great product! Then I would complete the project with 2 finishing coat's of waterbased enamel. Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 19May 30, 2011 7:44 am Jase, Are you sure waterbased enamel is more durable than oil based enamel? This was about the only reason remaining for oil based enamel, so if this is gone, so should oil based enamel form the market! Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Oil Vs Water based enamel paint 20May 30, 2011 3:14 pm Casa2 Jase, Are you sure waterbased enamel is more durable than oil based enamel? This was about the only reason remaining for oil based enamel, so if this is gone, so should oil based enamel form the market! Cheers, Casa Casa, Yep waterbased enamel is more durable than oil based enamel. That was the information given to me by Dulux 132525. Much in the same way Cabots rate their waterbased decking oil 'Aquadeck' more durable than their traditional solvent based decking oil. I think eventually oil based paints will be removed from the market. The yellowing mainly occurs to white or very light colours. 1 2944 This link might answer your question. I had the same issue and it turned out to be the roller. https://www.sherwin-williams.com/painti ... %20coating. 4 18158 I'm about to put down some Merbau. Is it necessary to oil underneath the boards before laying? 0 1935 |