Browse Forums Finishing Touch 1 Sep 14, 2010 10:40 am Hi! We have just purchased a house that is about 8 years old. We want to re-paint the interior but I have some questions I was hoping someone may be able to help with: 1. do we need to wash the walls first given the house is only 8 years old? If so, should we use sugar soap or cloudy ammonia? 2. what order should we paint in? i.e. skirting/architraves, ceiling, walls etc. 3. should we start with an undercoat even though the walls are already painted? 4. is Dulux wash/wear overrated or are there better value for money options available? any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated! Regards JT Re: repainting interior 2Sep 14, 2010 11:33 am 1. do we need to wash the walls first given the house is only 8 years old? If so, should we use sugar soap or cloudy ammonia? Use cloudy ammonia, you wash once, let it dry then paint, with sugar soap you need to wash the sugar soap off once it is dry so you end up washing twice. 2. what order should we paint in? i.e. skirting/architraves, ceiling, walls etc. Ceilings, Walls, Trims 3. should we start with an undercoat even though the walls are already painted? Don't always need to undercoat if it is already painted, however it can save any dramas so I would undercoat 4. is Dulux wash/wear overrated or are there better value for money options available? Dulux in general is overrated, I have been in the paint industry for many years and I can promise you there are much better paints out there. Here is what to consider Do you have kids or inside animals? If yes, get a good washable paint, so that means using the top of the range in whatever brand you choose The better quality paint will need re-painting less often, the sort of ‘rule’ is: cheaper paint will last 4 years, ultra premium will last 10 years. It’s a bit of cr@p really, but the idea is right, the more you pay the longer it will last. Are you painting yourself or getting a painter in? Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: repainting interior 3Sep 14, 2010 11:44 am 1. do we need to wash the walls first given the house is only 8 years old? If so, should we use sugar soap or cloudy ammonia? Yes, But use warm water and a microfibre cloth, only need to use a detergent if really tough stains 2. what order should we paint in? i.e. skirting/architraves, ceiling, walls etc. Ceilings, Walls, Timberwork 3. should we start with an undercoat even though the walls are already painted? no need to undercoat. 4. is Dulux wash/wear overrated or are there better value for money options available? What kind of stains are you looking to remove??? If they are water based stains (red wine etc) or Oil based stains(finger prints, handmarks, dirt) If it is water based stains you want to repel Dulux 101 Wash and wear is AWESOME However if it is more Oil based stains then I would go for either Taubmans Endure or Wattyl ID here are some links I posted about painting viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37758 viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4869 Oh and Spend GOOD MONEY ON GOOD BRUSHES and ROLLERS it will hep you achieve a Pro finish I went outside once. The graphics were alright, but the gameplay sucked! Settlement:22nd June Slab:27th August Frame:16th Sept Bricked:21st Oct Roof:24th Nov Linings HANDOVER23rd March! Re: repainting interior 4Sep 28, 2010 10:27 pm 1. do we need to wash the walls first given the house is only 8 years old? If so, should we use sugar soap or cloudy ammonia? 2. what order should we paint in? i.e. skirting/architraves, ceiling, walls etc. 3. should we start with an undercoat even though the walls are already painted? 4. is Dulux wash/wear overrated or are there better value for money options available? Probably wouldnt need to wash anything except around the stove and possibly the bathroom if mouldy/scummy.. I would recomend sanding everything... get a pole sander and a decent (cheap) 1.2m extention pole with 120 grit 'white' paper. and sand all the ceilings and walls up and down, moving 1/2 the sander width on each pass. you can 'flip' the sander and gouge the wall/ceiling, the round (expensive) sanding heads prevent this. Or you can patch the gouge you put in the wall with the sander at the same time you patch ant other defect you can find. Use A multi-purpose joint compound (premix plaster) (from hardware store) not some spak filler type stuff and SKIM coat any defects TWICE allowing to fully dry between coats 2 hours or so for first coat then 30min for second.. look for 'popped' nails in the walls ceilings knocks at waist/eye level... get a torch close to the wall if your keen. undercoat your patches - dont leave 'fat' edges (little rollers are good for this) undercoad should not be required (and will not noticably affect the finish.) paint a test patch with your wall paint, and see if it scratches off after 3 days if you'r worried. if your ceilings are in good condition one coat of trade quality acrylic ceiling flat should be fine.. if your not satisfied with the finish do a second coat Thorughly sand all frames and doors and use a good quality 3 in 1 type undercoat. DO NOT BRUSH DOORS, use a roller (use a mohair or seamless foam roller for gloss enamel) Undercoat your doors and frames keep the paint thin enough to avoid brush marks. Use a quality gap filler in all cracks: backs of frames, cornice, skirting, frames ect. for a excellent finish re-sand the frames and re-undercoat at this point Now do the walls.. 2 coats of a premium quality low sheen is my recomdation. wash and wear paints can be difficult to use and show more defects/poor technique than regular low sheen which is quite forgiving. if 'washibility' is a primary concern, then wash and wear paints arnt ideal anyway, they still scuff and stain. a satin paint is the answer here but will likley provide unsatisfactory results for the amatuer (or the professional unless the wall/plastering is excellent) wash and wear paints are a 1/2 way between these products in washibility, and about 1/3 of the way in sheen level (ie. more noticable defects) Use Oil based gloss for the frames/door UNLESS your trim colour is white then use water based enamel, which is hard to use. See the thread at viewtopic.php?f=18&t=38952 as mecha-wombat said get GOOD brushes and roller sleves. one 75mm-88mm $40 and one 'thin' 60mm $30 should be fine even for 2 people. this will encourage you to clean it EVERY DAY (turps-less cleanup stuff is good) this is so that it stays in shape, not so its clean, use a wire brush to clean any buildup off the ferrule (with the bristles obviously) use a mohair or seamless foam roller to gloss the doors. A lambswool roller will leave a heavier pattern in the wall (will hide poor plastering ect) and is easy to clean. synthetic rollers leave a smoother finish. cheap roller frames are just as good as expensive ones. (within reason) plastic dropsheets are good for furnature, but get 2 or 3 proper canvas ones for the floor. Hope this helps. Rhys. I am looking for someone who might have tackled a similar issue as me. I have a few rendered interior walls, the surface condition is hardly flat. 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