Browse Forums Finishing Touch 1 Oct 13, 2009 4:17 pm Hi, We are painting our new house ourselves. We have just applied the wall sealer and notice that where we are using the edger there are really obvious lines once paint is dry, so you can see where the edging has been done. We are using a roller for the rest of the walls. Do you think this edging will be obvious with the paint colour aswell? If so, how to I stop it happening!?! Re: question for DIY painting pro's 2Oct 13, 2009 5:17 pm Hi Zozzles, Welcome to the world of painting! If you google search painting tricks they will tell you that the trick to minimising any lines between the edging (cutting-in) and the roller is to try and paint the wall bit-by-bit (so edge a section top and bottom, and then roll in the middle, and then move on to the next section). In my experience however it made no difference at all... HOWEVER... first coat (sealer) will look terrible, second coat (first coat of colour) will look average or sometimes worse, but third and final coat will look fantastic! Not sure how it works but this is what happens...we almost had a heart-attack after we did our first coat of dulux in the old house... Also just be sure to roll as close to the edges as you can (even though they are filled with the edger) - this will help to overlap the paint and make it more consistent. Good luck! P1T Read about my building experience: http://secondhomebuild.blogspot.com Dale Alcock Homes - 'The Nautilus' in Bletchley Park, Southern River - WA Read about my Clipsal C-BUS Home Automation Project: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=20854 Re: question for DIY painting pro's 3Oct 13, 2009 6:29 pm To make sure those lines are not so noticeable...make sure the paint is not to thick when you are doing the edges...thats what creates those lines and...keep it enough but not too much... keep a car washing sponge handy and if you find it is to thick and you have made those lines get your sponge and slowly dab the section out until it blends away....... Re: question for DIY painting pro's 5Oct 16, 2009 7:05 am plasterboard sealers designed to be sprayed, if you cut and roll it you will make your internal lineings look like textured render. And you will never be able to repair it . You shouldnt use an edger or whatever it is to cut in, there novalty items sold to DIY'ers, truth is theres no way around having to use a quality professional brush. Painting a new home requires useing a paint system that requires you to chop and change what section of the home your painting. for example .... seal your woodwork/doors (doors removed seal your plasterboard everywhere undercoat your woodwork/doors complete the painting of all cupboards but not the gloss work on shelf faces paint your ceilings completely so they are finished paint your doors to finish, off there hinges. paint your woodwork to finish. re-hang your doors this will remove them from being in the way for you to do your walls. sand and patch any defects in your walls - re-seal cut in all your walls against the ceilings twice and against the skirtings twice obviously around all architraves etc aswell. roll the walls twice useing a lambswool 10 - 12mm nap roller sleve 360 wide with a matching sleve cradle and deep bucket. devide the house into main items this being : Ceilings Cupboards doors/trims/woodwork walls in general you must complete the job in that order. for acrylic work you will need a synthetic flagged and tapered professional brush, this is important the flag and taper of the brush is what sets your cutting in lines against the ceilings and skirts etc when doing walls and the bristle controls how much flow you get from your brush of paint. The best brush manufacturer is Purdy, i recommend trying a 75mm Sprig purdy. For acrylic work rolling you will need lambswool roller sleves worth about 35$ each, use a wide one 360mm if you dont it will be hard to get an even finish, you will also need a deep dish roller tray worth about 90$ ,these are important as if you do not use these you will run into issues. For enamel work you need a differant type of brush , alot of painters used to use natural bristle brush, you generally need a pretty good quality one as the bristles tend to leave the cheaper ones, although now a company make a brush called Excel that is synthetic whih is great for enamel work, as for rollers you will need disposable foam rollers and a 270mm open ended roller tray with a 270mm open cradle. use blue kero to thin enamel as turps is now a replicated product and generally isnt real turps anymore, if you thin enamel with turps it will work but will still feel draggy. When you fix defects dings in your walls its important to know how to patch them , you will need a base and a top coat similer to what plasterers use, you fill the hole smooth with base coat , then without sanding although check for exposed edges apply a thin layer of top coat over , then sand. Base coat is very hard to sand. painting trim against aluminium window frames can be difficult you will want to run blue tape around them to protect them from paint splatter/ scratching from sanding. few things of the top of my head that may help. A new home of 200sq/m's will take a professional painter upto 2 weeks to complete if there are 2 painters around a week, and depending on how the jobs done it varies from there. but approx 80hrs work time. If you are unable to use a spray gun you will probly need around 100hrs worktime. Thats for a professional. keep in mind also paint drys solid, once its on there its on, when painters sand they generally are just smoothing the surface from the particles that get into the paint, the paint as applied is usually smooth to begin with, so if you cut and roll sealer etc and texture your walls greatly, there is effectively no way of ever removing that texture, while it is possible with extremally hard sanding, or smoothing plaster over it again, it will be costly and time consuming. I beleave home owners grossly underestimate the difficulties in painting correctly. Re: question for DIY painting pro's 6Oct 16, 2009 10:54 am swarvy ...lots of amazing painting advice... ... and that dear friends is why you pay the pros for a pro finish! Awesome advice swarvy. I agree with you that people underestimate the skill and knowledge involved in painting. Painting a new house is not the same as changing the wall colour (whacking on a few new coats) in an established and well maintained home. You need the right knowledge, tools, and application techniques. A pro paint job will differentiate a quality finished house from a DIY job. Just walk through some open inspections and you'll see some ******* quick DIY paint jobs - you don't want your house looking like that. AFAIK, flashing is a minimum standard. Out of curiosity is your window glass stamped with AS requirements in any of the corners of each pane? Im almost certan if theyre… 2 6277 4 14454 |