Browse Forums Finishing Touch 1 Sep 02, 2009 8:48 pm White-base paint. What exactly is it? Is it where they add pigment to a white base colour to get your colour? My builder has specified that our paint colour selection is to be white base. If I wanted a couple of feature walls in a non-white-base colour, is there any extra wall prep required? More coats? Or is it just that the paint itself is more expensive? Kylie Re: White base paint? 2Sep 02, 2009 8:57 pm Hi, As far as I know, it is the base they start with and then add the pigment to get the paint colour, as you have guessed. If yu get the little paint sample cards from Bunnings, it will have letters after the name of the paint colour. eg Garden Pond W. The letter tells you what base it is. I think there is white (W), dark (D) and ultra dark (UD). The darker you go, the more expensive it is (according to our paint guy). We wanted to get a tin of Garden Pond (W) retinted to the darker colour of Equatorial Forest (UD), which we thought could be done because it is just a darker version of the same colour, but we couldn't because they are prepared with a different base - you can only retint to colours using the same base. I am no expert, so happy to be corrected if I am wrong. MagicJ I finally have my own reno thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28335 The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue! Re: White base paint? 3Sep 04, 2009 10:57 pm the paints we use come in white base/ deep base / ultra deep base also red base blue base yellow base are the main ones of the top of my head. the base's are made to be used for specific colours for example if you wanted a bright red you'd have to use red base then add black tinter to deepen or different colourants etc to manipulate the red. The reason there are colour base's is because you can only use so much colourant in paints before it will float (fail to mix into the paint). If you try'd to make white bright red youd only get so close b4 tint floated. Yes different base's are different prices. as for deeper being more expansive.....possibly. builders only use white base's because a deep colours would probably incur more labour in the painting significant labour . eg thousands $. The different paints behave differently when applied aswell....a red base will peel quite easily for example. Re: White base paint? 4Sep 07, 2009 6:08 am swarvy builders only use white base's because a deep colours would probably incur more labour in the painting significant labour . eg thousands $ Why is that? A third coat would be more labour, 1/3 as much again if you assume one undercoat and two coats of white based paint. I can see that a feature wall requires additional labour - cutting in at corners, using a roller not spraygun, etc but that would apply whatever the base colour. Is it because on top of the extra time for a third coat to be applied and dry, overall more care needs to be taken because a darker colour is less forgiving? kylie Re: White base paint? 5Sep 11, 2009 2:12 pm it gets very complicated, having to apply a third coat is not the significant cause of the price increase. (and in reality not adequite) If your home is white base throughout (as most are) then the painter will apply the white base'd colour to the walls a 1st and 2nd time (on volume homes) with a spray gun, at the same time primeing architraives and doors with the spray gun aswell, then will spray all the ceilings to a finished standard. Once this is all done then they'll prep doors then undercoat then finish , prep woodwork then undercoat then finish, prep walls one more coat finished. If you use a deep base colour in there for the walls only then you can spray the first two coats on the walls but then you will overspray them quite abit spraying the white ceilings and architraives etc, this will cause you to have to do the walls a further 2 times rather then once to achieve coverage. Also the deeper colour will alter the proceedure and incur further work when painting the home. In saying that you wouldnt spray two coats onto the walls initially youd spray one if it was a deep colour (the first being plasterboard sealer) then cut and roll twice. I find it hard to explain sometimes ,hopefully i've helped you've understand alittle better. And personally i love deep dark rich colours. Re: White base paint? 6Sep 13, 2009 6:52 am swarvy I find it hard to explain sometimes ,hopefully i've helped you've understand alittle better. And personally i love deep dark rich colours. Thanks for taking the time to explain it. 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