Browse Forums Finishing Touch Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 21May 29, 2009 2:15 pm Pix - unfortunately on forums (and this is the case with any forum) you always get someone who wants to be a sm@rt@ss for the want of a better word and wind people up. Now I personally don't like a lot of things that some people may think are lovely - just as I said previously I have everything on that list. - but I wouldn't dare post that they are "so 5 mins ago"- because it is their decision and their home. Now I am not offended - because at the end of the day I really couldn't give a sh!t what anyone of this or any other website says about my choices. My house - my choices - only need to please my family. But don't come on as a tosser and try to start upsetting anyone like the original poster set out to do. Go and use your time more wisely elsewhere. As Lisanne posted - Trolls are the bane of most forums. I suppose we have been pretty fortunate that H1 hasn't had a lot of them - but more and more are starting to pop up. Some things are worth waiting for. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 22May 29, 2009 2:27 pm Well we bought a house that is so 5 minutes ago...well 8 years ago...and I must say we are very happy with the bluestone drive, cypress garden, hardwood doors and windows, recycled bricks, exposed hardwood beam ceilings, "real" fireplace, select beech laminate, recently painted Chalk USA walls (probably same category as Antique White... ) ...our house...our style. Proof is in the puddin'...we feel much more settled and at home in the new place than what we did in the previous home which was arguably more modern styling. Problem is I'd like the house we have, an ultra modern house, a country cottage, a stately home, a beach house, a studio in the city, a ranch style house in the country, and several houses here on H1...all to suit the different moods and styles we like... mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 23May 29, 2009 3:07 pm YSSIM rubber_noggin ::angry:: STOP..... where are the cliche police? I reckon you are so 5 mins ago. That was hilarious. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it. W.C. Fields Brought Established. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 24May 29, 2009 3:15 pm I don't think there is any question that things go in and out of fashion. (sitting here in my bellbottoms) I think it is great they everyone is able to select their own favourites - colours, fittings, styles etc Alternatively, imagine if we all picked the same all the time and ended up with identical homes in identical colours. Those that may be less confident in their own choices may have been offended if they believed that this was an attack on their choices. They shouldn't be. Be confident in your choices. Others on this thread appear to be. Besides, did you ever stop to think that some (if not all) of those items on my list were in fact from my own home? I love my chunky waterfall edges. Doesn’t mean that they won’t date. Besides, if I wait long enough….. they will be so in again. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 26May 29, 2009 8:18 pm Pixelated Fashion comes and goes and sure enough, what's "in" now -- will be "out" one day; consider the burnt orange and lime green kitchens of the 70's as just one example! Pix Did someone say "orange and lime kitchens"? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Love both of these, especially the orange (and I don't ever like orange). Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 27May 29, 2009 11:34 pm hmm interesting thread. I'm not opposed to a bit of criticism to the general way of things. Personally I haven't gone with the thick waterfall edges because I wasn't a fan but then I have a square boxy house that looks a bit like an office block (as someone once said) and I love it. Who cares what others think .. if you like it ... that's the main thing. I have a black kitchen ... my family thinks its horrendous but my partner loves it .. but then he adores glam metal so it works for us Get what you like and stuff the rest .. who cares what the world thinks .. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 28May 30, 2009 8:20 am Now that is more like it.... "Who cares" is the answer I was hoping to see. There is no need to be too precious about this. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 29May 30, 2009 9:43 am Pixelated After reading through some of these posts I'm really surprised at some of the replies. Truly, I *can* understand why some people get a bit prickly if someone says "I don't like your choices" but in some of these replies it appears to have been misunderstood as some sort of personal attack or criticism of personal taste and preference. But personal taste is just that -- personal and therefore highly *subjective*. Recognising that, do we all have to "ooooh and ahhhh" like sycophants at everyone's choices? Or if we don't happen to like something we're just supposed to stay silent? Fashion comes and goes and sure enough, what's "in" now -- will be "out" one day; consider the burnt orange and lime green kitchens of the 70's as just one example! That being said...why so sensitive about one person's list? Surely we're all a bit tougher than some of the posts would lead me to believe? Pix I agree... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 30May 30, 2009 9:58 am Quote: Recognising that, do we all have to "ooooh and ahhhh" like sycophants at everyone's choices? Or if we don't happen to like something we're just supposed to stay silent? Well, actually, yes Either post that you like something, if you do, or post a constructive comment, or stay silent - if you cant say something nice, say nothing. I think it was kyton or kek who made the analogy to babies- very rude to say someones baby is ugly - either say how cute they are or what curly hair etc - or say nothing. Peoples houses are like babies to them - they do take them personally. This isnt me being precious about my own house - which I know is not modern or up to the minute, as I have said on here many times, I know I have old fashioned (oops, classic ) tastes but a comment, based on 2 years experience on the forum, about what can happen in these type of threads. And lets face it, there's been enough turmoil on here lately without provoking more. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 31May 30, 2009 10:02 am Helyn - as usual you are much more eloquent then me Some people have spent a lot of time trying to choose exactly the right things for their home. To then come in and be told oh they are so 5 mins ago could be quite hurtful. Again I am not being precious - I really don't care who likes my home (which is why I will not show photos on here to anyone other then my friends) as it is my personal choices. But all week we have been told to be nice to fellow members that some threads are quite nasty - well this is how I see threads like this. Whether they are written tongue in cheek or not - some people are quite hurt by comments like these about their choices. No you don't have to like them - but you also don't have to go out of your way to be nasty either. Some things are worth waiting for. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 32May 30, 2009 10:06 am ed @ EcoClassic Pixelated After reading through some of these posts I'm really surprised at some of the replies. Truly, I *can* understand why some people get a bit prickly if someone says "I don't like your choices" but in some of these replies it appears to have been misunderstood as some sort of personal attack or criticism of personal taste and preference. But personal taste is just that -- personal and therefore highly *subjective*. Recognising that, do we all have to "ooooh and ahhhh" like sycophants at everyone's choices? Or if we don't happen to like something we're just supposed to stay silent? Fashion comes and goes and sure enough, what's "in" now -- will be "out" one day; consider the burnt orange and lime green kitchens of the 70's as just one example! That being said...why so sensitive about one person's list? Surely we're all a bit tougher than some of the posts would lead me to believe? Pix I agree... Ed I find that fascinating Ed considering yesterday you posted about how "hurt" you had been by people's comments. Are your feelings the only ones under consideration on here? I personally have no problem with a thread like this. But I think that it was worded in such a way as to try to cause a bit of friction and when the OP only has a handful of posts, rightly or wrongly, that will immediately arouse suspicion on any forum. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 33May 30, 2009 10:10 am This is not about this specific thread, it's about whether it is OK to say you do or don't like something. Of course it's OK to say you don't like this or that... people soon jump in to say they don't like the comment - how is that different? I remember a thread started by Michelle where she complained about people who never say thank you. Is it not OK to complain about that? If someone asks for an opinion on a particular colour benchtop, are they entitled to an honest reply? But that reply might be critical for someone who has that particular benchtop. So what I say... have what you want, ask who you like, in the end be mature enough to know it's not just OK to be different, it's good and it's actually your right. I can see that saying nothing will lead to a quieter forum but it will also be less interesting, and people won't get honest responses. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 34May 30, 2009 10:12 am joles I find that fascinating Ed considering yesterday you posted about how "hurt" you had been by people's comments. Are your feelings the only ones under consideration on here? I personally have no problem with a thread like this. But I think that it was worded in such a way as to try to cause a bit of friction and when the OP only has a handful of posts, rightly or wrongly, that will immediately arouse suspicion on any forum. Yup... I was hurt Jo, but I was attacked personally... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 35May 30, 2009 10:24 am Quote: If someone asks for an opinion on a particular colour benchtop, are they entitled to an honest reply? Of course - specific threads asking for specific opinions on bench tops, colours, tiles etc are fine and people want honest (but tactful) answers I dont recall any objections or anyone getting offended in these threads - there was a recent one about diamond or square laid tiles or about square or round basins, for examples off the top of my head - interesting, honest, polite answers - I dont think anyone who preferred one or the other was offended by the alternative view. To me, that is very different to a thread just asking in general for suggestions on what is now so 5 minutes ago which I see as deliberately baiting and provocative. I find it interesting that rubber noggin has said "who cares" is the response he/she was hoping to see - in other words he/she wasnt after a rational discussion on fashion trends at all but was just looking for an argument Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 36May 30, 2009 10:26 am ed @ EcoClassic joles I find that fascinating Ed considering yesterday you posted about how "hurt" you had been by people's comments. Are your feelings the only ones under consideration on here? I personally have no problem with a thread like this. But I think that it was worded in such a way as to try to cause a bit of friction and when the OP only has a handful of posts, rightly or wrongly, that will immediately arouse suspicion on any forum. Yup... I was hurt Jo, but I was attacked personally... Ed And you have attacked Ed. But you dress it up and then say you were joking. The forum doesn't need you to be our moral guardian and decide for us what is and isn't appropriate. We have moderators that uphold the standard and they do it very well. On one thread you'll say, we are all too sensitive, people are joking.... next thread you're talking about being hurt..... next thread you're saying we're all entitled to opinions. Which way is it? It seems the forum is sensitive when your inappropriate jokes get taken the wrong way. It seems the forum is harsh and hurtful when you are the one at the recieving end. It seems that opinions are ok when it suits you, but not when it doesn't. I have never attacked, only defended. If I'm attacked I'll have a go back, but I never instigate it. Ever. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 37May 30, 2009 10:27 am Quote: Yup... I was hurt Jo, but I was attacked personally... Thats my whole point, Ed - people do feel ( rightly or wrongly) that attacking their houses/choices/tastes is a personal attack Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 38May 30, 2009 10:29 am joles ed @ EcoClassic joles I find that fascinating Ed considering yesterday you posted about how "hurt" you had been by people's comments. Are your feelings the only ones under consideration on here? I personally have no problem with a thread like this. But I think that it was worded in such a way as to try to cause a bit of friction and when the OP only has a handful of posts, rightly or wrongly, that will immediately arouse suspicion on any forum. Yup... I was hurt Jo, but I was attacked personally... Ed And you have attacked Ed. But you dress it up and then say you were joking. The forum doesn't need you to be our moral guardian and decide for us what is and isn't apporpriate. We have moderators that uphold the standard and they do it very well. On one thread you'll say, we are all too sensitive, people are joking.... next thread you're talking about being hurt..... next thread you're saying we're all entitled to opinions. Which way is it? It seems the forum is sensitive when your inappropriate jokes get taken the wrong way. It seems the forum is harsh and hurtful when you are the one at the recieving end. It seems that opinions are ok when it suits you, but not when it doesn't. I have never attacked, only defended. If I'm attacked I'll have a go back, but I never instigate it. Ever. I don't think you know what this is about... so let's disagree and leave it at that. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 39May 30, 2009 10:38 am Helyn Quote: Recognising that, do we all have to "ooooh and ahhhh" like sycophants at everyone's choices? Or if we don't happen to like something we're just supposed to stay silent? Well, actually, yes Either post that you like something, if you do, or post a constructive comment, or stay silent - if you cant say something nice, say nothing. I think it was kyton or kek who made the analogy to babies- very rude to say someones baby is ugly - either say how cute they are or what curly hair etc - or say nothing. Peoples houses are like babies to them - they do take them personally. It was MEEEEEE, Helyn. God, I've seen some ugly babies. Like you, I (mostly) try to follow the old adage "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all". Sometimes though, you really have to tell someone that you honestly think the puce walls with the bright yellow benchtops they're planning will look awful. But you can do it nicely.... And at the end of the day, it's their house, and they have to live with it, so *shrugs* ....whatever. People are going to take offence at innocent comments at times anyway. That's life. We all need to take ourselves a bit less seriously sometimes. Otherwise you can spend big chunks of time sitting around brooding over a comment and wondering what did he/she mean by that? Paranoia can set in all too easily with some individuals. I should know - I live with one. He tells me all the time that he's not paranoid; it's just that everyone's out to get him. All you can do is be honest in your responses, but also be courteous. Of course, if the point of the post or response you're planning on writing is to be amusing or clever at someone else's expense, then don't do it.... ed @ EcoClassic I remember a thread started by Michelle where she complained about people who never say thank you. Is it not OK to complain about that? OT, but my this is my pet hate with forums. You spend ages writing a detailed and thoughtful response to someone's question or problem, maybe researching and looking up images and references, and they never bother to even acknowledge your efforts? Sheesh. Luckily, that's not the majority of people. Re: What do you think will be 'so 5 minutes ago' soon? 40May 30, 2009 10:42 am kek Helyn Quote: Recognising that, do we all have to "ooooh and ahhhh" like sycophants at everyone's choices? Or if we don't happen to like something we're just supposed to stay silent? Well, actually, yes Either post that you like something, if you do, or post a constructive comment, or stay silent - if you cant say something nice, say nothing. I think it was kyton or kek who made the analogy to babies- very rude to say someones baby is ugly - either say how cute they are or what curly hair etc - or say nothing. Peoples houses are like babies to them - they do take them personally. It was MEEEEEE, Helyn. God, I've seen some ugly babies. Like you, I (mostly) try to follow the old adage "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all". Sometimes though, you really have to tell someone that you honestly think the puce walls with the bright yellow benchtops they're planning will look awful. But you can do it nicely.... And at the end of the day, it's their house, and they have to live with it, so *shrugs* ....whatever. People are going to take offence at innocent comments at times anyway. That's life. We all need to take ourselves a bit less seriously sometimes. Otherwise you can spend big chunks of time sitting around brooding over a comment and wondering what did he/she mean by that? Paranoia can set in all too easily with some individuals. I should know - I live with one. He tells me all the time that he's not paranoid; it's just that everyone's out to get him. All you can do is be honest in your responses, but also be courteous. Of course, if the point of the post or response you're planning on writing is to be amusing or clever at someone else's expense, then don't do it.... ed @ EcoClassic I remember a thread started by Michelle where she complained about people who never say thank you. Is it not OK to complain about that? OT, but my this is my pet hate with forums. You spend ages writing a detailed and thoughtful response to someone's question or problem, maybe researching and looking up images and references, and they never bother to even acknowledge your efforts? Sheesh. Luckily, that's not the majority of people. I agree 100% with everything kek... and also, allow people their mistakes and forgive & forget... I used to be perfect, then I was born... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Joe, it depends on your certifier but we are noticing the ones we deal with are really cracking down. 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