Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Feb 02, 2020 8:49 pm Hi all, We have a driveway that was completed in 2019 that I would say is rather steep as the gradient is a straight ledge like platform from the garage for 1.5 meters. Then straight to the foot path for the remaining 3.5 meters, this means unless you drive a 4x4 or raised type vehicle we can't get a car in to the garage. Also, we can see that the drive way moves up and down as you park on it as well as the max thickness I can find on the edge is 70mm. Are there any Australian Standards for driveways as we need to get this rectified ASAP and the concreter is unwilling to help. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 2Feb 02, 2020 9:03 pm Your concreter has mucked up as when doing ours we tested Several times to ensure our car could get up without bottoming out,we have a steep driveway and can no worries get a mini into our garage,he has mis calculated the right angles needed,before pouring a very easy fix,after a nightmare. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 3Feb 02, 2020 9:10 pm Joker Your concreter has mucked up as when doing ours we tested Several times to ensure our car could get up without bottoming out,we have a steep driveway and can no worries get a mini into our garage,he has mis calculated the right angles needed,before pouring a very easy fix,after a nightmare. Agreed but he is adamant that there are NO guidelines or Australian Standards for driveways. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 4Feb 02, 2020 10:02 pm Thejones88 Joker Your concreter has mucked up as when doing ours we tested Several times to ensure our car could get up without bottoming out,we have a steep driveway and can no worries get a mini into our garage,he has mis calculated the right angles needed,before pouring a very easy fix,after a nightmare. Agreed but he is adamant that there are NO guidelines or Australian Standards for driveways. Driveway standards and issues. 5Feb 02, 2020 10:09 pm AS 3727.1:2016 pavements residential (this includes driveways)
See if you can access this from a uni library student or other library. Gradient is your biggest concern but I agree 75mm doesn’t seem thick enough. “Pavements for vehicles less than 3 t gross mass should have a minimum thickness of 100 mm.” https://www.ccaa.com.au/imis_prod/docum ... eview1.pdf Re: Driveway standards and issues. 6Feb 02, 2020 10:10 pm In WA in comes under local government and needs approval to be completed, not sure about other states, the maximum in WA is 1:4 or 25% but it's a bit more complicated than that, it cant be just 25%, the first and last bit has to be 12.5% off the top of my head so the car doesnt bottom out Re: Driveway standards and issues. 7Feb 02, 2020 10:10 pm In WA in comes under local government and needs approval to be completed, not sure about other states, the maximum in WA is 1:4 or 25% but it's a bit more complicated than that, it cant be just 25%, the first and last bit has to be 12.5% off the top of my head so the car doesnt bottom out Re: Driveway standards and issues. 8Feb 05, 2020 8:59 pm Gaudi AS 3727.1:2016 pavements residential (this includes driveways) See if you can access this from a uni library student or other library. Gradient is your biggest concern but I agree 75mm doesn’t seem thick enough. “Pavements for vehicles less than 3 t gross mass should have a minimum thickness of 100 mm.” https://www.ccaa.com.au/imis_prod/docum ... eview1.pdf I have that section with me but what I need to know if there is a gradient guideline as this really is the biggest issue we have. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 9Feb 05, 2020 9:34 pm Your heights are pretty much governed by the crossover height and the floor height of the garage so any driveway has to allow for that grading It sounds like they have put a bit of a run out in front of the garage which is a good idea because it gives more height under the door but maybe they could have shortened it up a little. If the drive is too steep it probably goes all the way back to the original heights used by the builders. A little bit of forethought and maybe they could have raised the floor height a little to help with steep gradient. The other issue is a problem. The driveway shouldn't be moving and should be 100mm. Sometimes if they use 70mm boards on the edge it may look like it's not 100mm when it is. The only way to tell is to inspect before the pour and make sure everything is set up properly. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Driveway standards and issues. 11Feb 10, 2020 7:11 pm Hi mate. I had visualised the driveway sloping down and the angle catching bumpers but it's the other way. Is the 1500 section at the top marrying into a path or entry? They could have shortened the top section up and rolled the top so it wasn't such an angle. 150mm out of the FFL would have helped as well. If the driveway isn't 100mm and is already suffering from movement I'd be considering my options to get the whole lot ripped out and redone Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Driveway standards and issues. 12Feb 10, 2020 7:22 pm chippy Hi mate. I had visualised the driveway sloping down and the angle catching bumpers but it's the other way. Is the 1500 section at the top marrying into a path or entry? They could have shortened the top section up and rolled the top so it wasn't such an angle. 150mm out of the FFL would have helped as well. If the driveway isn't 100mm and is already suffering from movement I'd be considering my options to get the whole lot ripped out and redone The top 1500mm is at the garage height then slopes to the footpath, I have to put cars on ramps made of timber to get anything other than a 4x4 in the garage. Concreter is unwilling to rectify the issue, VCAT seems to be the only option, have been quoted 11k to rip up and re do. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 13Feb 10, 2020 7:37 pm Does that 1500 join a pathway at all? Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Driveway standards and issues. 14Feb 10, 2020 7:39 pm chippy Does that 1500 join a pathway at all? No the 1500mm is at garage level. The slope downwards is towards the footpath. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 15Feb 10, 2020 7:41 pm You seemed to have issues with your FFL with your build. I wonder if the builder has not cut your site to try and save a $$ and it's left you with an additional headache Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Driveway standards and issues. 16Feb 10, 2020 7:42 pm No the front path to your house. Most driveways have a path that comes off the side and runs to the front door. Can you post a plan Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Driveway standards and issues. 17Feb 10, 2020 8:24 pm We didn't have one done as we are having a deck entrance built leading up to the front door from the foot path. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 18Apr 21, 2020 12:51 pm Just the other day the driveway has cracked all the way through and all the way across to the other side. I am now concerned to even use the driveway in anyway. It is defiantly not 100mm think and has raised completely out of the ground. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Driveway standards and issues. 19Sep 05, 2020 4:15 pm We have not had a report done and it appears there are several issues. Driveway poured at 65-70mm. Lack or ableflex against driveway and garage. Driveway must be designed to access the garage. Now we need to take the concreter to VCAT to get some form of resolution. Re: Driveway standards and issues. 20Sep 06, 2020 7:15 am Your local council would have guidelines which are based I think on an Australian standard for egress and access. You should be able to download them and compare them to yours. That's what we have to do when we lodge a DA through our council. I'll post up some later.
As per your drawing, he hasn't incorporated a transition zone which basically reduces the harsh angle from driveway to garage and it is both easy to work out and to do. He is just lazy. Stewie Building Standards; Getting It Right! Don't think they are designed for double brick. WA has a particular way of building and unfortunately that's the way a large amount of sills are finished. 3 7003 I believe this is correct. From the picture you can see the power was put in last so the electrician knew where the water was. Really it's a common sense issue more… 4 5152 2 8643 |