Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Another defective house story 63Jun 06, 2019 9:11 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Another defective house story 70Aug 14, 2019 8:52 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Another defective house story 72Aug 14, 2019 9:20 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Another defective house story 73Aug 14, 2019 9:29 pm SaveH2O Harts It's like the term 'deemed to satisfy', deemed to satisfy who? Themselves and the Building Surveyor who ticks the boxes to continue getting more work from the builder? Deemed To Satisfy (DTS). The National Construction Code (NCC) is a 3 part document comprising of the Building Code of Australia (BCA) which is Parts 1 & 2 and the Plumbing Code of Australia (PCA) which is Part 3. The NCC is a performance based document, this means that the performance requirements of the NCC must be met but the NCC does not specify how this must be done. This is to allow for the introduction of new techniques and materials provided that those new techniques and materials satisfy the NCC's performance requirements. At the basic level, the NCC is the primary document which calls up Australian Standards as DTS solutions. If there is a conflict between the NCC and the AS, the NCC has hierarchy because it is the primary document. A combination of the NCC and AS can be used. On the same hierarchy level as AS are Performance Solutions. Performance Solutions need to be certified by an industry expert as satisfying the performance requirements of the NCC and many builders now include Performance Solutions into the contract. It should be noted that many certified Performance Solutions do not meet the AS or manufacturer's requirements. If there is a problem in the construction that cannot be rectified by a NCC or AS method, a Performance Solution often needs to be certified to affect a fix. The NCC can also be overruled by local and State regulations even though the NCC is a national code. Some of these interferences are just plain ridiculous but don't get me started on examples of those! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Harts When did that AS come into effect or has it always been there? I have the AS/NZS 2003 edition and it is in there. As to when it was first introduced, I don't know. It has to be remembered that AS have no legal standing unless they have either been legislated or drawn into a contract. On 1 May 2011, the PCA was introduced into the NCC as volume 3. Prior to that, Victoria used the Plumbing Regulations which adopted the PCA in 2008 (2004 edition). Section 5 of AS/NZS 3500.3 deals with SURFACE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS - DESIGN. Two methods can be used to design drainage systems, the general method and the nominal method. The general method requires calculations whereas the nominal method only requires local practice and experience. Another problem with the Standards is the consultation of charts within the Strandards that show slopes and flow rates of different size pipes that show true diameters whereas most pipes are nominal sizes. For example, the internal volume per metre of a true 90mm internal diameter pipe is 6.36 litres per metre whereas the internal volume of a nominal 90mm pvc stormwater pipe with a true diameter of 86.2mm is 5.84 litres per metre. In other words, plumbers are basing compliance on smaller pipes from figures given for larger pipes! A true 90mm internal diameter pipe has 9% more internal volume than the commonly used SN2 (stiffness rating) 90mm pvc stormwater pipe which has 1.9mm thick walls and an outside diameter of 90mm. With so many Standards, Codes, State and local government differences and top that off with self-certification, no wonder the building industry is failing. Re: Another defective house story 74Aug 14, 2019 9:34 pm Self regulation has left the lunatics in charge of the asylum. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Another defective house story 75Jan 16, 2021 8:49 pm Update: My home is to be demolished. I have significant structural damage and it is no longer safe to live in. An 8 yr old home needs to be demolished because of absolute negligence. The regulators need to start regulating and not just token. The housing industry is booming and non compliance is rampant. Unfortunately for me and others going through this, it is way too late for anything to be done. My neighbour cleared an area to prepare for the demolish and I was appalled what was found. So much for formwork, they used the existing fence the two years later fell down due to pressure. At least they used plastic. I will post these pictures up and lets have a game of spotting the defects!! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Another defective house story 76Feb 04, 2021 9:59 am Harts Update: My home is to be demolished. I have significant structural damage and it is no longer safe to live in. An 8 yr old home needs to be demolished because of absolute negligence. The regulators need to start regulating and not just token. The housing industry is booming and non compliance is rampant. Unfortunately for me and others going through this, it is way too late for anything to be done. My neighbour cleared an area to prepare for the demolish and I was appalled what was found. So much for formwork, they used the existing fence the two years later fell down due to pressure. At least they used plastic. I will post these pictures up and lets have a game of spotting the defects!! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ What a crack in the slab! I'm sorry for how long this has dragged out for -thankfully, you received a positive outcome. What do you mean by "they used the existing fence"? Do you mean they built the house against it? Re: Another defective house story 78Feb 04, 2021 1:31 pm Hey Harts. Glad to hear your nightmare is coming to an end. Who ended up paying for the rebuild? Are you out of pocket for just legal fees? Re: Another defective house story 79Feb 04, 2021 4:14 pm Lisa06 Harts Update: My home is to be demolished. I have significant structural damage and it is no longer safe to live in. An 8 yr old home needs to be demolished because of absolute negligence. The regulators need to start regulating and not just token. The housing industry is booming and non compliance is rampant. Unfortunately for me and others going through this, it is way too late for anything to be done. My neighbour cleared an area to prepare for the demolish and I was appalled what was found. So much for formwork, they used the existing fence the two years later fell down due to pressure. At least they used plastic. I will post these pictures up and lets have a game of spotting the defects!! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ What a crack in the slab! I'm sorry for how long this has dragged out for -thankfully, you received a positive outcome. What do you mean by "they used the existing fence"? Do you mean they built the house against it? Yes, Lisa06, they didn't use formwork for the slab for the garage, they used the fence as the formwork. You can see it in this picture of the indents of the fence. Great brick work too. Interesting how the Building Surveyor approved this as one of the mandatory inspections is to inspect before the slab is poured. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Hi, We have a single story MacDonald Jones house, on a waffle pod slab with steel frame. Are we able to build a second story extension? 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