Aug 18, 2008 9:35 pm
We are going to be building a house in Valley View, SA. The previous owner of the land had nearly signed a contract with Format but for financial reasons was unable to build in the end. We too are in negotiations with Format at the moment (we figured seeing how there were council approvals it might be easier to go with format) We asked the question whether or not any soil reports were done from the previous owner to which we got this reply:
"The other question I was to chase up for you was the contours and soil reports – I have just found *previous owners name* the full engineering report the news as a result of this is that the footing / site allowance of $22,000 is not going to cover you, on the calculations now it appears it will be more like $50,000 (THIS WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL $28,000 TO THE QUOTE) – I know this is a huge difference but you will require 1200mm deep piers, double mesh and 30mm rods this is because the soil is tree effected and highly reactive and you would certainly not want to find this out after a contract had been signed, as it would normally be done as a variation (we would not normally have this information to hand at the time of signing a contract). The footings will be the same where ever you go – the price of steel (mesh and rods) has increased by 95% since Feb 08 and the concrete prices have gone through the roof as well. The area of your design is about the same as the original *previous owners name* plan and that footing would now be the same cost – the variation for their footings after contract signing took the footings to $42,000 a year ago."
HOLEY COW.. seriously.. this seems like A LOT for footings???????????
the home is 300 square metrs including the garage.
Is what this woman telling us seem true? Obviously we will definately look at some other builders.. maybe Rossdale seeing how once you sign the contract thats it!!
any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated.. any ideas of what footings should cost would also be appreciated.
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Aug 18, 2008 10:31 pm
those sort of figures blow you away don't they! We paid $55,000 for our 1.6 metre footings (private contractor). can't remember soil class but can look it up if you want me to. we are building in eastern suburbs (approx 6 km from city), Adelaide. i am guessing that with rossdale's promise not to change their price once quoted (ie if they hit rock) they would do some pretty thorough soil sampling before quoting!!
sorry, i know that's not much help but i can sympathise with the heart attack feeling!
Are we Crazy? yeah probably!
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Aug 20, 2008 11:47 am
"The footings will be the same where ever you go – the price of steel (mesh and rods) has increased by 95% since Feb 08 and the concrete prices have gone through the roof as well. The area of your design is about the same as the original *previous owners name* plan and that footing would now be the same cost – the variation for their footings after contract signing took the footings to $42,000 a year ago."
Well I can tell you that this is absolutly true. We own a concrete business and the cost of steel has increased that much same with concrete. Its killing us, but you have to incorportae those costs into your quotes otherwise we would go broke
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Aug 20, 2008 4:00 pm
Some areas in eastern side of Adelaide have highly reactive soils.
Definitely not the first case that I've heard about a house there requiring deep piers and thus spending a small fortune on footings. Add to that, the price of steel and concrete, it's the perfect storm.
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Sep 08, 2008 11:45 am
We are also building with Format and our block had no problems except that the soil report came back that the top level was fill meaning that they had to bring in new top soil and level etc.
Our allowance was $12,000 and the footing cost ended up being $22,500 so we had a variation for an extra $10,500 This was for a contract signed Jan 08.
I am no expert but it looks like the slab will be very solid.
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Apr 22, 2009 9:20 pm
My parents once withdrew an offer on a block during the cooling off period due to the footing requiremens. They were also something ridiculous like 1.7m or something like that... Which is probably why the previous owner decided to sell it after getting the soil tests done...
Anywhoo, our soil is classified as M-D and the recommended footing type is reinforced concrete raft footings.
Beams: 300mm x 700mm
245sqm on the ground floor plus a 80sqm shed
have been quoted $45,000. Does this sound reasonable?
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Apr 22, 2009 9:23 pm
Hmmm according to my calculations and comparison to our footings your quote seems cheap :S
We've got similar sqm area to cover but out footings are half the depth of yours, and the price is very similar.
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Apr 22, 2009 10:20 pm
gettingThere - Do you have any idea of the CU mtr of conc?
no. What does CU stand for?
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Apr 22, 2009 10:21 pm
Oh, you mean cubic meter of concrete?
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Apr 22, 2009 10:24 pm
gettingThere - Do you have any idea of the CU mtr of conc?
we just ordered some concrete it was $220.00 cu mtr for 25 mpa you may require a higher strength which would definately cost more
before you sign with another builder i would make sure they have the soil report as they will under quote on foundations but you will pay full price under the contingency clause in your contract so be very careful
stay safe happy building
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Apr 22, 2009 10:38 pm
N20/20/80 @ $143.00+gst, N25/20/80 @ $149.00+gst, N32/20/80 @ $157.00+gst.
Bronze Sureset add $5.50.
Silver Sureset add $9.50.
And another is $140.00/m2
Why are they using m2 instead of m3? :S
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Apr 23, 2009 9:39 am
First part is CU mtr rate and 2nd is sq mtr rate
That is so confusing
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