Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Oct 26, 2016 2:53 pm Hi, Whilst I understand that this is typically local council guided; has anyone ever seen a Building space ratio exclude the Garage space? My preferred home apparently sits over the 55:1 ratio if the garage space is included! Appreciate your thoughts. Cheers GLO Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 2Oct 26, 2016 7:32 pm Depending what council an location you are in most DAs go way over the standard space ratio. Our place the "Small Space Big Build Project" (#SSBBproject) certainly did. Or place is in Sydney's Inner West on a small 180m2 block. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... 07B4O7XYpU Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 3Oct 26, 2016 7:38 pm Thanks Our build123, Your blog looks interesting! Will have a look at it on the weekend. I'm hoping that council/builder will allow us to build over the listed ratio. Separately, have you checked out the HTC 10! Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 4Oct 27, 2016 7:57 am Quote: Depending what council an location you are in most DAs go way over the standard space ratio. That may be the case for a lot of the inner city councils but most in my experience farther out are a fair bit more restrictive. They also have to be careful regarding how many they let through that are over the usual FSR. This is an excerpt from a post that I have seen a few times. It is based on the regular info put out by Planning NSW on this site http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/Policy-a ... -Circulars Quote: It appears that the magic number is an FSR of 0.55:1. Planning Circular PS 08-014 and PS 11-018 provide detail into why. Once there's a variation greater than 10%, it is to "be determined by full council (rather than general manager or nominated staff member)" and "any particular development standard are being regularly varied by a council may require review". So basically, once I go over 0.55:1 there's more work on Council's part and more visibility. And if they allow too many variations they may be forced by the state government to increase the FSR beyond 0.5:1. I have regularly got DA's through that are 5 -10% over the recommended max. FSR but usually only if there are good reasons for doing so and there are no other issues that the council could pull us up on. As OB123 says , a lot will depend on which actual council you are with. Stewie Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 5Oct 27, 2016 8:00 am Hmmm, I'm unsure why the later part of that quote was trimmed. Here's the latter part again... "So basically, once I go over 0.55:1 there's more work on Council's part and more visibility. And if they allow too many variations they may be forced by the state government to increase the FSR beyond 0.5:1." Stewie Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 7Oct 29, 2016 6:58 pm I must be thinking about the numbers in the wrong way. For example. If my block is 560sqm and applying the .55:1 ratio takes me to 308sqm. The basic size of the ground level home is 20.8x12.85m (267.3sqm) doesn't that sit with the FSR? Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 8Oct 29, 2016 10:04 pm Yes it does so you should be fine. The other thing some councils have in their guidelines too is not only the FSR but the hard space to soft landscaping ratio. It is sometimes possible to be well under the councils FSR but including all the paths driveway area to be over their recommended landscape ratio. Once again it will depend on your particular council. Stewie Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 9Oct 30, 2016 3:45 pm GLO Thanks Our build123, Your blog looks interesting! Will have a look at it on the weekend. I'm hoping that council/builder will allow us to build over the listed ratio. Separately, have you checked out the HTC 10! Not yet, I'm looking to change phones though as the camera on this model isn't the best. Regards James. www.renovationjunkies.com.au Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 10Nov 06, 2016 2:06 pm I found out today that another consideration (limitation) I have to factor in is: Site Area. I have read my local council regulations (http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/~/vie ... rt4/cl4.5#). But I still can't see how this has any impact on my ability to build a 2 storey home. Any thing else I a missing or misunderstanding? Thanks in advance. Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 11Nov 06, 2016 10:07 pm That will depend on your particular council. Some have the FSR rule and the ratio of floor area to site. What that means is that you have to consider the floor area of the ground floor plus the second floor added together to give you the total floor area. It is not just the footprint of your proposed house on the land which is what our local council goes by. Stewie Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 12Feb 19, 2023 11:40 pm Stewie D Quote: Depending what council an location you are in most DAs go way over the standard space ratio. That may be the case for a lot of the inner city councils but most in my experience farther out are a fair bit more restrictive. They also have to be careful regarding how many they let through that are over the usual FSR. This is an excerpt from a post that I have seen a few times. It is based on the regular info put out by Planning NSW on this site http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/Policy-a ... -Circulars Quote: It appears that the magic number is an FSR of 0.55:1. Planning Circular PS 08-014 and PS 11-018 provide detail into why. Once there's a variation greater than 10%, it is to "be determined by full council (rather than general manager or nominated staff member)" and "any particular development standard are being regularly varied by a council may require review". So basically, once I go over 0.55:1 there's more work on Council's part and more visibility. And if they allow too many variations they may be forced by the state government to increase the FSR beyond 0.5:1. I have regularly got DA's through that are 5 -10% over the recommended max. FSR but usually only if there are good reasons for doing so and there are no other issues that the council could pull us up on. As OB123 says , a lot will depend on which actual council you are with. Stewie Hi , what are the good reasons for approving applications that go over the FSR under DA? Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 13Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm There wouldn't be many if at all that I can think of unless you have a tiny block of land. It happened recently on a small block not far from here - probably around the 300 sq m size. All neighbouring properties would be in the 550 -650 sq m range but they were allowed to build a house with hardly any front or back garden. If you were thinking of applying with a FSR of say 60:1 and their law says 55:1 you may get it through by saying the floorplan is compacted as small as possible and it would be impossible to alter without seriously compromising the design. Site restrictions etc Stewie Re: Building Space Ratio (excluding garage space?) 14Feb 23, 2023 4:10 pm thanks so much! can I ask another question about CDC vs DA for FSR. CDC fsr excludes 18sqm for garage, where as DA does not include Garage on FSR? You should be able to encase the sewer but you will need it designed and approved and access to lot 580 to do the work 2 17154 You can really use anything you want the main consideration would be how it looks once painted/finished - or the look you want. 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