Independent inspectors
Page 1 of 1
Just wanted to gauge how many of you that didn't use an independent inspector for the final stage are still happy with their house. A lot of people say it's a must but I'm not convinced. Would love to hear about everyones thoughts for those who haven't gone with one and also for those who have!! TIA
Our inspector has 40 years in building industry - worked with various companies as SS, construction manager etc
We knew nothing.
Inspector picked up many things that we would never have noted at frame stage, lock up and PCI. Also was able to call him between visits for advice when required due to problems that came up.
You never know quality of trades your company will use on your house even if displays are wonderful. And documentation of errors before settlement can help if you have problems down the track.
We're in Melbourne.
Deregulation, self certification, building surveyors paid by the builders and poor consumer protection has made using a good building consultant a statistical necessity.
1. Too specialised towards consultancies and IMO .. unworkable and costly.
2. driven up costs, as clients now have to get work certified compliant by independent source
3. regarding 2. above made non-compliance an even bigger issue
4. put people without the right qualifications approving the engineering and structure
5. Stacked the odds in the builders favour and putting the battlers at greater risk
etc,etc
OT as an engineer that does structure repairs the best advice I can offer is that the Punters & Battlers take plenty of photos..LOL..should they need them..later on even when the slabs been so called inspected..HTH
Private inspectors have pounced on a market that needs no qualifications, no responsibility, no warranty and actually charge upto 5 times what a registered inspector charges. Industry is a joke really. Need to regulate it so we can weed out these so called private inspectors with absolutely no practical experience
I have meet a few that have actually been builders and understand what's involved and actually do help provide a better product for their clients.
I would say do the same for your surgeon, or any one you buy a significant service from.
Building surveyors appointed by the builders in my experience don't truly work for the client. i.e. Documentation indicated that the builder appointed surveyor charged extra for client to gain access to their reports from visits. That is why I employed a private inspector. I used someone recommended by friend in building trade who'd had experience with them as a private inspector on their sites and knew of their significant building experience. If the build is smooth it's likely not crucial, but if problems occur or you have questions you have someone independent to ask and advocate for you using the standards and terminology.
I hope it's good for future owners/clients in Victoria that rules are changing and VBA now states - Legislation introduced on 1 September 2016 prevents the builder from appointing the private building surveyor. The appointment of the private building surveyor must be made by the owner or an agent of the owner other than the Builder.
It'd be great if owners can pay the same person for a few additional inspections.
More independence from builder would be my hope as owner references may get them more jobs than being easy on builder.
The builder was very resistant to rectifying the problems that we had identified and having Peter to back us up and advise us on our rights and how to communicate with the builder was invaluable.
Almost one year in and many of the issues still remain but I feel in a much stronger position because of our private inspection.
Statistically chances are that you will be Ok but it's like a tattslotto, chances are low but someone always wins and many win second and third division prizes.
Do you want to win a second or third rate build build? No problem, don't have independent inspections and you will be underwriting your own risk.
The benefits of having independent and competent inspector working for you are:
1 Builder will know you will have a professional working for you and it will change complexion of things. You won't be bullied, intimidated and treated like crap. I suspected for a long time that volume builders assign their best supervisors to where they know will be independent inspector. Other jobs get leftovers. But just recently one of the building managers for a large volume builder said so to me.
2 Pre-contract review- your most important inspection. If you willingly sign off on a bad deal no one can help you.
3 Pre Slab inspection- another pair of eyes going over slab preparation, levels, drawings, drainage etc before concrete is poured.
4 Frame inspection, in theory should not be required because building inspector does those for mandatory requirements but often I pickup on serious defects and omissions.
5 Pre plaster-last chance inspection to check everything before everything gets covered up, after that you cannot see and if your plaster has bows and hollows then walls have not been properly straightened.What about fire walls if you are in a unit?
6 Pre final inspection:
incomplete work
defects
non compliance
non conformance
theremal imaging scan- for insulation and roof leaks
variations overview
7 having your expert in the cloud should bring you comfort and respect from your builder, otherwise you may be treated as a pushover.
If that does not convince you, read my blogs
I am so glad we went with an independent inspector!
Related
24/10/2023
12
That is a really good attitude Akin to you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I do enjoy watching that tik tok inspector from Victoria but he does go a little…
20/02/2024
1
If you are in Victoria you have a statutory right to your own building inspector regardless of builder's consent. No negotiations are required. However the builder will…
26/10/2023
9
It is true that a builder can ignore your independent inspection report as it is not part of the contractual arrangement but that is stupid because he cannot avoid fixing…