Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 2Apr 01, 2016 11:16 pm ~Shellby~ GJ Bridgewater 203 11/3/2016 - Site Work Started 29/9/2016 - Handover 142 Work Days 6 Work Days Over https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=80174 Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 5Apr 02, 2016 12:04 pm Custom downslope build Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=61873 Blog http://www.buildingroyalmanor.blogspot.com.au Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 7Apr 02, 2016 4:13 pm Beazley77 PS is always an estimate on builders part until they have a quote. For clients that means it could go up in price, or down, so I think they are being reasonable asking for the extra. I would understand if at the time of the actual build something came up unexpectedly that increased the price. But these guys are professionals who drew up the plans themselves and prepared the quote but are now basically saying they hit the wrong button on the calculator. Surely they should have checks in place. Also they gave us a few hours to sign the variation and until pressed gave no explanation as to why there was one at all. I wonder if they know by admitting they are at fault we can contest it. Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 8Apr 02, 2016 5:57 pm I can't comment legally, but does it always come down to that? Why do so often people think it's ok to short cut builders.not pay final payments etc. If the price is fair for the job why wouldn't you pay it? Do you like to get paid for work? If the position was reversed would you want to work for nothing, give the additional cost is probably largely materials ? I would weigh up whether the price is right for the job and whether you want goodwill going forward Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 9Apr 02, 2016 10:24 pm Alot of people get hung up on the cost of things when building especially variations then stress to the max in the end its only money which you can continue to hopefully make for the next 30 years while paying the mortgage in the end is it worth the stress and aggravation trying to save that money has caused and will continue to in all reality if paying that money pushed you to the bring of being broke should you be building in the first place. If its just the principal of it all maybe leave the indignation at home and just get on with it all get the house built and let things go. Obviously this advice doesnt work if its a genuine builder mess up liked cracked slabs or walls falling down but this is one guy messing up at work one day sure to you its a dream to him its a job and we all mess up at work. Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 10Apr 03, 2016 9:36 pm tjilpi I can't comment legally, but does it always come down to that? Why do so often people think it's ok to short cut builders.not pay final payments etc. If the price is fair for the job why wouldn't you pay it? Do you like to get paid for work? If the position was reversed would you want to work for nothing, give the additional cost is probably largely materials ? I would weigh up whether the price is right for the job and whether you want goodwill going forward This isn't an independant builder but one of the large 'cookie cutter' home builders who are taking their 20% builders cut (the real reason I suspect they are insisting they must build the retaining wall, and the reason their quote is so far above everyone elses). Tommorrow they will be sending us a revised quote which we will only sign if it is fixed. Its not so much the cost but the principal of been threatened with long delays if we didn't return it signed within a few hours, all done by email with no explanation why it had jumped up so much. We'll just wait and see what tommorrow brings. Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 11Apr 03, 2016 9:47 pm Havocthemighty Alot of people get hung up on the cost of things when building especially variations then stress to the max in the end its only money which you can continue to hopefully make for the next 30 years while paying the mortgage in the end is it worth the stress and aggravation trying to save that money has caused and will continue to in all reality if paying that money pushed you to the bring of being broke should you be building in the first place. If its just the principal of it all maybe leave the indignation at home and just get on with it all get the house built and let things go. Obviously this advice doesnt work if its a genuine builder mess up liked cracked slabs or walls falling down but this is one guy messing up at work one day sure to you its a dream to him its a job and we all mess up at work. Haha, I wish we did have 30 years to earn more money but we are both on the unforgiving side of 50. We understand there will be variations, and have allowed a generous budget for these. But I thought (naively obviously) that these would be for issues that came up during the build, not bad office practices. Oddly enough the first quote came in $1000 more than what was in the final quote so it scares me somewhat that something that seems pretty straight forward to me, quoting on one retaining wall that they designed, could have been misquoted so often. Just what else have they got wrong? Tommorrow they will be sending through a revised quote, we will sign it if it is fixed. And, I would like an apology for trying to blackmail us into signing, is that too much to ask? Re: Do We Have The Right To Refuse To Pay This? 12Apr 03, 2016 10:59 pm Refer to your contract but long story short you don't have a leg to stand on. The shame about building contracts (MBA/HIA) is it gives the builder the right to increase the price due to: "discrepencies or errors in the documents adjustments to provisional sums variations to unforseen circumstances" [Clause 9] As you can see the builder can adjust prices for several reasons. I would however ask the builder for proof of how he came to that figure. E.g. invoices. I think you're entitled to that at a minimum. Yep, very good point. I’ll do more research and see what figures I get. Thank you! 8 2464 I'm putting a new floor in my kitchen, slate flagging on a standard concrete slab. I have allowed for a bed thickness of up to 20mm to accommodate the different… 0 15140 They using concrete or timber sleepers? 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